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Are young people tech-savvy or tech-dependent?
Are young people who grew up with technology around them truly tech-savvy, or are they just dependent on digital tools without understanding how they work?
In this episode, a panel of educators debate the myth of the "digital native," uncover how it could overlook complex issues of access, skills, and education, and discuss what it really takes to be tech-smart in the modern world.
Meet our guests

James Robinson
James Robinson is a highly experienced computing educator & trainer, with a background in Computer Science and 10 years of classroom experience teaching a range of STEM subjects. James currently works to promote evidence informed and effective practices in computing education Pedagogy.

Anna Lahtinen
Anna is a Senior Researcher at Haaga-Helia University of Applied Sciences in Helsinki, Finland. She is an internationally recognised scholar, who specialises in the transformative effects of Artificial Intelligence (AI) on working life, businesses, and careers.

Sway Grantham
Sway is a Senior Learning Manager (Educator Development) at the Raspberry Pi Foundation. She is a specialist in primary computing education, has written curriculums, trained hundreds of teachers and advocated for well-planned, engaging computing lessons.

Nicole O'Connor
Nicole is a a passionate educational activist and creative digital trainer. She is Director and Digital Learning Specialist at Digi Know This. Nicole uses her expertise to enhance teaching and learning through innovative EdTech solutions, digital literacy and accessibility.
Are young people tech-savvy or tech-dependent?
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Episode links:
Read Anna Lahtinen, and Antonia Pichler's article - Digital Native or Digital Naïve? Rethinking Digital Literacy
Find out more about the collaborative project - Digital Job Onboarding, an initiative aimed at enhancing digital skills for young people entering the workplace
Take a look at Damien Newman's Design Squiggle referenced by Nicole
Find out more about the Finnish bill on school smartphone ban referenced by Anna
Discover The Computing Curriculum, a complete set of resources to help you teach computing to students aged 5 to 16
Find about the Raspberry Pi Foundation’s Applied Certificate which has recently launched as part of the Greater Manchester Baccalaureate