DougieLawson wrote:fruitoftheloom wrote:....actually do not use Windows is the best solution to any issues

But that isn't practical for new users who've never used anything other than Windows (and don't have anything that can write to an SDCard other than Windows or their camera). Unless you're, really, saying that everyone should use the RPF pre-loaded NOBS cards.
Well, the immediate reaction to your last comment is: If you're having problems, then that's probably the best advice. Although, in the past, we've always had the problem that the hardware keeps changing (first the B1, then the B2, then the B+, …), with the result that anything pre-loaded was almost certainly out-of-date and wouldn't work. So that put the kibosh on anything pre-loaded.
However, now that (knock wood) the hardware seems to have stabilized, pre-assembled cards are not such a bad idea.
But that's not at all the point of this post. My reason for posting is that, per my previous advice, if we could figure out a foolproof/idiotproof way to get them *something* - that is, a working Raspbian system from which they could then generate whatever other system they wanted (Pidora, XBMC, RetroWhatever, Whatever…), that'd solve the problem. I thinking here something written in Javascript or something like that so that you could just click on the webpage, and it would download and install everything for you. Sort of "NOOBS on steroids." Not my area (web scripting), but it should be doable. Maybe take a page from (or attend a class sponsored by) the malware writers.
And some folks need to stop being fanboys and see the forest behind the trees.
(One of the best lines I've seen on this board lately)