sujata
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rpi initial boot from laptop

Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:06 am

Can i do the initial boot of rpi with my laptop?
I have raspbian image installed on my sd card. i have a ethernet cable connecting the router to rpi. Now, I don't know the hostname of ip address of rpi. does it come with default ip. I have tried-- ping pi, ping raspberrypi, and i got -- cannot find host.

or is it obligatory to have a monitor and keyboard for initial boot?

thank u.

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Re: rpi initial boot from laptop

Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:13 am

The RPi boots up the installed Operating System when you plug it in.

To communicate with the Operating Systems installed on a RPi by VNC or SSH from another PC / Laptop see:

http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentatio ... /README.md

Raspbian Wheezy SSH is enabled by default http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentatio ... /README.md
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Re: rpi initial boot from laptop

Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:18 am

sujata wrote:Can i do the initial boot of rpi with my laptop?
I have raspbian image installed on my sd card. i have a ethernet cable connecting the router to rpi. Now, I don't know the hostname of ip address of rpi. does it come with default ip. I have tried-- ping pi, ping raspberrypi, and i got -- cannot find host.

or is it obligatory to have a monitor and keyboard for initial boot?

thank u.
I log into my router before booting the Pi and check the connected devices table. boot the Pi and check the table again, the new device will be the pi.
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Re: rpi initial boot from laptop

Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:33 pm

sujata wrote:Can i do the initial boot of rpi with my laptop?
I have raspbian image installed on my sd card. i have a ethernet cable connecting the router to rpi. Now, I don't know the hostname of ip address of rpi. does it come with default ip. I have tried-- ping pi, ping raspberrypi, and i got -- cannot find host.

or is it obligatory to have a monitor and keyboard for initial boot?

thank u.
If you have installed the 'raw' Raspbian image on your SD card then it will be easy to connect via SSH...... when you find the IP address.
If NOOBS then not so easy as your OS is not installed yet. But I heard it is possible - Google the forum.
The RPi is DHCP enabled and does not have a 'fallback' mode. So as mentioned you must look in your router.
You cannot ping or connect by hostname without further configuration. Google search that as well.

FYI
I prefer to use DHCP to MAC reservations setup on my router so the RPi always gets the same IP with no config to do on the RPi.
-OR-
You can set up the RPi for a static IP.
Unless specified otherwise my response is based on the latest and fully updated RPiOS Buster w/ Desktop OS.

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Re: rpi initial boot from laptop

Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:58 pm

klricks wrote: FYI
I prefer to use DHCP to MAC reservations setup on my router so the RPi always gets the same IP with no config to do on the RPi.
-OR-
You can set up the RPi for a static IP.

Worth bearing in mind, I abandoned static IP for the moment as I have been using different Pi's and different routers, so it became easiest to just check the router's IP address table when I wasn't sure.
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Re: rpi initial boot from laptop

Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:19 pm

It's easier to use something like fing.

Fing on Android is a very slick application.
Fing on Windows is crude but effective. Set it running and you can easily see when your RPi comes alive and what address it has been assigned.

http://www.overlooksoft.com/download
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Re: rpi initial boot from laptop

Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:45 pm

DougieLawson wrote:It's easier to use something like fing.

Fing on Android is a very slick application.
Fing on Windows is crude but effective. Set it running and you can easily see when your RPi comes alive and what address it has been assigned.

http://www.overlooksoft.com/download

Mmmm, looks interesting. Sadly I won't be installing it as I don't want to risk accidently activating it while connected to my work WIFI as I would then get in serious trouble with the IT department who take a very dim view of such things.
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Re: rpi initial boot from laptop

Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:50 pm

BMS Doug wrote: Mmmm, looks interesting. Sadly I won't be installing it as I don't want to risk accidently activating it while connected to my work WIFI as I would then get in serious trouble with the IT department who take a very dim view of such things.
It's mostly benign and they won't notice a small amount of ICMP traffic unless you're flooding a big subnet with it. I can't see how you could "accidentally" run it either, it needs a positive action - just like running nmap on a linux system.

Get the Android version, as I said it's very slick, has very pretty eye candy and even integrates nicely with JuiceSSH.
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Re: rpi initial boot from laptop

Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:33 pm

well, i did manage to find my pi in the list of dhcp client from my routers address. I installed putty and could log in as pi, but sadly i also managed to disrupt the whole network connection at home.

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Re: rpi initial boot from laptop

Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:33 pm

Thank you for the replies.
i followed the tutorial from here: http://www.penguintutor.com/linux/tightvnc and have my pi running on my laptop right now. :D

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Re: rpi initial boot from laptop

Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:07 pm

sujata wrote:Thank you for the replies.
i followed the tutorial from here: http://www.penguintutor.com/linux/tightvnc and have my pi running on my laptop right now. :D
The RPi Operating System is not running on the Laptop, the Laptop is running Windows NT, you are just Controlling the RPi's Operating System Remotely.. ;)
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