bob432626 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:31 amso I invested some money in some boards for some discord bots, (running a few for my server and some for a friends server) and I just go to see if there are any updates on the website, and find that they are no longer selling 1gb ram versions... did they get recalled or something?
https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/ra ... 4-model-b/
That would be nice. I wonder what the correct trade-in value of a 1GB model Pi 4B might be. Could it be US $10 or $20? The problem, however, is finding a third party who will trade, as Raspberry Pi Trading, in spite of the name, does not as far as I know.
I understand the frustration.bob432626 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:02 amha... "dont be greedy" spending 105$ for 3 1gb + 55$ for a 4gb gb pi + 20$ in shipping to find out that i can get that amout for 2gb pis if i waited a few months... i can understand if they added a better CPU to the pi and not allow trade-ins, but all they did was just price drop the 2gb version... *sighs* oh well. not much i can do now.
Fortunately the same does not hold true for automobiles: Mine is 25 years old, has more than 400000km and leaks a bit of oil all over where I park it. At the same time, it is far better (for social distancing) than any new vehicle, especially those battery powered ones.
That's a terrible analogy. Modern cars are getting more sophisticated with each model, but the price stays the same. Your old car is more polluting (its drops oil everywhere as well!), and has less features than any modern car. So, no, it's not far better, it's far worse.ejolson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:27 amFortunately the same does not hold true for automobiles: Mine is 25 years old, has more than 400000km and leaks a bit of oil all over where I park it. At the same time, it is far better (for social distancing) than any new vehicle, especially those battery powered ones.
Come to think of it, my 486DX computer is also still amazing, though in this case the Pi is a noticeable improvement.
Thanks for pointing that out. Though I'm worried it might break, I'm trying not to let that old car bother me. If it bothers you, I would encourage buying me one of those Audi E-tron vehicles.
I have seen this kind of complaint here a few times. It goes like this:
There's a parable that relies upon the hearer thinking that's a reasonable way to feel: gospel of Matthew chapter 20 v 1-16
Back on topic, the point of the thread is that those 1GB Pi 4B computers work just as well as they did when purchased, so nothing is lost by reducing the cost of the 2GB model now. The unfairness is when Raspbian no longer runs well in 1GB because the baseline model now has more memory.
I am sure that earlier Pi models could find a home if necessary. But trade in would simply not work - older models are worth very little, so the trade in would be only a few dollars. But the profit margins on Pi's are so tight that even a few dollars would mean no profit on a sale. No profit = no money to pay engineers. No engineers = more more models, and that ignores all the money that goes to the Foundation.ejolson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:23 pmThanks for pointing that out. Though I'm worried it might break, I'm trying not to let that old car bother me. If it bothers you, I would encourage buying me one of those Audi E-tron vehicles.
As for the Raspberry Pi, a trade-in policy like car manufacturers have might help reduce landfill while at the same time allowing the older machines to serve a purpose for those who don't approve of the way throw-away consumer goods optimise certain economic indicators. A way to source replacement parts, such as a new PMIC, might also help.
This makes no sense to me.