Unable to deploy Windows IoT Core on RPI4 [Win10IOT doesn't work on a 3B+ nor on a RPI4 !!!]

[Tumba]

Hi!
Could you advise what wrong steps I am doing to deploy Windows IoT Core?
I have RPi 4 (4Gb)
I have downloaded the latest release of Windows IoT for Rpi2/Rpi3 from Raspberrypi.org. repository.

Scenario 1. Deployed ISO file to SD card throw Gnom (in Raspberian) . inserted SD card to raspberry.
nothing happens. no signal to monitor.
Scenario 2. Deployed ISO via MS tool. The same outcome - nothing is loaded.

Thanks.

[fruitoftheloom]

Hi!
Could you advise what wrong steps I am doing to deploy Windows IoT Core?
I have RPi 4 (4Gb)
I have downloaded the latest release of Windows IoT for Rpi2/Rpi3 from Raspberrypi.org. repository.

Scenario 1. Deployed ISO file to SD card throw Gnom (in Raspberian) . inserted SD card to raspberry.
nothing happens. no signal to monitor.
Scenario 2. Deployed ISO via MS tool. The same outcome - nothing is loaded.

Thanks.

It is not supported

Always best to investigate before wasting your time and effort:

viewtopic.php?f=105&t=262983

[B.Goode]

Could you advise what wrong steps I am doing to deploy Windows IoT Core?
I have RPi 4 (4Gb)
I have downloaded the latest release of Windows IoT for Rpi2/Rpi3

But you need a release compatible with your more recent RPi4.

But Microsoft don't appear to have released such a version of their software.

[Tumba]

Could you advise what wrong steps I am doing to deploy Windows IoT Core?
I have RPi 4 (4Gb)
I have downloaded the latest release of Windows IoT for Rpi2/Rpi3

But you need a release compatible with your more recent RPi4.

But Microsoft don't appear to have released such a version of their software.

I shall not ask Microsoft. I shall ask RaspberriPi developers.
They use components (Microchip Ethernet/Wifi or someting like that) , they know which drivers must be inserted in Windows ARM image before installation.
If the drivers are not compatible with Windows OS (which is rare case) then they will contact
Microsoft.

By the way, there are a bunch of success cases of installing Win10 ARM on RPi4.


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Maybe in the future boards will have something like BIOS with drivers firmwares and OS operating systems will work independently from driver firmware using standard API commands. Jut dreas

[rpdom]

I shall not ask Microsoft. I shall ask RaspberriPi developers.
They use components (Microchip Ethernet/Wifi or someting like that) , they know which drivers must be inserted in Windows ARM image before installation.
If the drivers are not compatible with Windows OS (which is rare case) then they will contact
Microsoft.

Good luck with that. The Raspberry Pi developers do not support any kind of Windows operating system. They support Raspbian Linux. Neither is it their responsibility to contact Microsoft for you.

If you want to know which hardware drivers the Pi uses - boot it up in Raspbian and have a look. Also look at the Kernel configuration, that will show which drivers have been included.

[fruitoftheloom]

Could you advise what wrong steps I am doing to deploy Windows IoT Core?
I have RPi 4 (4Gb)
I have downloaded the latest release of Windows IoT for Rpi2/Rpi3

But you need a release compatible with your more recent RPi4.

But Microsoft don't appear to have released such a version of their software.

I shall not ask Microsoft. I shall ask RaspberriPi developers.
They use components (Microchip Ethernet/Wifi or someting like that) , they know which drivers must be inserted in Windows ARM image before installation.
If the drivers are not compatible with Windows OS (which is rare case) then they will contact
Microsoft.

By the way, there are a bunch of success cases of installing Win10 ARM on RPi4.


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Maybe in the future boards will have something like BIOS with drivers firmwares and OS operating systems will work independently from driver firmware using standard API commands. Jut dreas

Totally wrong, Raspberry Pi Trading do not have anybody with Windows 10 IoT experience, it is a Microsoft Product.

Regards Windows 10 on ARM that is a community effort and raises questions of legality.

May I suggest you post here:

https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forum ... WindowsIoT

[mahjongg]

I shall not ask Microsoft. I shall ask RaspberriPi developers.

Stubborn much?

Good luck with that.

Its Microsofts responsibility to update their "OS", they seem to not care.

[jamesh]

I shall not ask Microsoft. I shall ask RaspberriPi developers.

As a Raspberry Pi developer I can say that we know nothing about WinIOT at all. It was entirely developed by Microsoft, and sadly they seem to have stopped developing. I do not know why. You will need to ask Microsoft, we do not do development of WinIOT.

[neilgl]

Anyway, what is it that you can't do with other open source software that you need Windows IoT for?

[ejolson]

Anyway, what is it that you can't do with other open source software that you need Windows IoT for?

Just like some people used Windows Phone when it worked well and before Microsoft mobile became a variant of Windows 10, so it appears some people tried Windows IoT on the Raspberry Pi and liked it.

Under the previous leadership Microsoft monetised market share while showing an amazing lack of innovation and at the same time wasted surprising amounts of cash on useless acquisitions. The present leadership seems much more practical, however I can not detect any significant innovation even in the cloud business. In particular, Amazon offers ARM instances and soon (probably in a month) will install new ARM-based compute nodes that have similar per-core integer and floating-point performance compared to present Intel and AMD based instances, twice as many cores and much quicker core-to-core signalling. Does Microsoft run on this new hardware?

From my point of view, it does not appear Microsoft operating systems will be central to the deployment of ARM servers or IoT devices. Moreover, at this point Linux is so well funded by major industry players that few people even notice the lack of Windows this or Windows that.

On the other hand, as demonstrated by the recent non-computer virus, having a monoculture of a single type of sentient being or operating system poses a huge vulnerability whether Linux or Windows. If I could boss people around, I would direct resources towards developing an easy-to-deploy L4 microkernel for the Pi.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L4_microkernel_family

[Heater]

I shall not ask Microsoft. I shall ask RaspberriPi developers.

Are you seriously suggesting that a few engineers working for a charitable foundation in the UK that happens to produce one of the best, cheapest, computers in the world, lift even one little finger to do work for one of the worlds wealthiest companies in a foreign country?

And, by the way, the whole reason for being of the Raspberry Pi originally was to get kids back into tinkering and programming, a reaction against the closed source world of MS and it's applications that everyone lived with since the 1980's.

No, if MS wants their OS to run on a Pi they have to roll their sleeves up and make it so. Like the rest of us.

[Heater]

Maybe in the future boards will have something like BIOS with drivers firmwares and OS operating systems will work independently from driver firmware using standard API commands. Jut dreas

That might be a fine idea.

History tells me it has never worked. Not since the original BIOS of the CP/M operating system on Z80 or the BIOS on the original IBM PC.

[Imperf3kt]

I'm pretty sure most people don't know that winIOT is not windows at all.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows ... indows-iot

I also find it highly amusing that Microsoft claim "ten years of support" but fail to deliver any support at all.


Perhaps though, THE RPI Foundation could point out these facts on the download page?
You can't blame somebody for not knowing something isn't compatible when it's advertised as compatible. (albeit only stating support for the Pi2b and 3b on Microsoft's download page)

[DougieLawson]

In the grand scheme of things Microsoft appear to have dropped support for Windows 10 IOT on Raspberry Pis some time before 14th March 2018 ("Pi Day" two years ago). The support for 3B+ never got out of an early alpha release (possibly just about beta release).

So expecting it to work on a RPi4B (any flavour, any version) is never going to happen. Bleating about it to the RPF/RPT folks is pointless because they don't own the Win10IOT stuff.

There's more evidence at https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... s-iot-core, look at the last update date on that page (18th Jan 2018). And more at https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... stomboards (dated 28th August 2017).

What would be really helpful would be for Microsoft to announce the formal cancellation of their IOT project on Raspberries.

There does seem to be some support for developing on NXP boards https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... are/iotnxp (although it's a year out of date with a last update on 22nd Feb 2019).

Perhaps Microsoft need to announce the demise of their whole IOT project.

[Imperf3kt]

The latest release of Windows 10 IOT core was October 2018, found on the page linked to via the downloads section.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... /downloads

[DougieLawson]

The latest release of Windows 10 IOT core was October 2018, found on the page linked to via the downloads section.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... /downloads

It's 2B & 3B only. That one won't boot on a RPi 3B+ or 3A+ because the /boot/bootcode.bin didn't get updated.