user12345
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Passwords for Stretch

Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:27 pm

Hello,

downloaded newest image for testing of Bugs cause old rasbian is unable to update all files(sbin).
I get asket for root shell password, it not "raspberry" "toor" or "".
Now i get asked for a password at startup?!

WTF.

I want the same like on wheezy, never asked for a password!

And another thing, if i start Dolphin/Kwrite as root all images are missing. Google says something from a Env Variable thats set for "pi" but not for "root".
No solution for that works. Settings are too not saved.

Then there seems font anti-aliasing how to switch this off?

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Re: Passwords for Stretch

Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:11 pm

Your download appears to be corrupt or your SD card is bad.
Unless specified otherwise my response is based on the latest and fully updated Raspbian Stretch w/ Desktop OS.

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Re: Passwords for Stretch

Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:47 pm

downloaded newest image

In the same vein as @klricks...

This does not sound like the expected behaviour of the official Raspberry Pi Foundation Raspbian Stretch Operating System.

From where did you download this image?

The official source is here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/


Or have you made some change to the configuration of the system after its initial installation?

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Re: Passwords for Stretch

Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:01 pm

B.Goode wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:47 pm
This does not sound like the expected behaviour of the official Raspberry Pi Foundation Raspbian Stretch Operating System.

From where did you download this image?

The official source is here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/


Or have you made some change to the configuration of the system after its initial installation?
Its official(CRC checked cause its zip). yes of course i tryed to get a root shell.
Now i downloaded Jessi to check if its too so buggy.
No changes to the origial Jessi image, always reproduceable:
1. Make the Taskbar showing you "Root Terminal".
2. Click on "Root Terminal"
you get a a requester "Enter the administrative password", empty, raspberry or toor dont work. You dont get into root shell.

Dolphin works at least with jessi
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jahboater
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Re: Passwords for Stretch

Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:08 pm

There is no password for root by default.
Your system works fine.
Just type:

sudo su

if you want a root shell (for some weird and risky reason).
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Re: Passwords for Stretch

Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:10 pm

I have never had any need to try to start a Root Terminal from the taskbar on any version of Raspbian, so I can't comment on whether this is broken or buggy.

Maybe there are other ways to accomplish the unspecified task you are undertaking?

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Re: Passwords for Stretch

Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:13 pm

The only password Raspbian expects you to use is the one for the pi userid. The default value is "raspberry", the GUI pops-up a panel insisting you change it on first boot.

When asked for the "administrative password" use your current password for the pi userid.
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Re: Passwords for Stretch

Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:25 pm

jahboater wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:08 pm
There is no password for root by default.
Your system works fine.
Just type:

sudo su
Its not fine if "Root Terminal" can startet&used in wheezy but doesnt work in jessi/stretch.
If it ask a password, for a user that has no password set, its a bug.
I know about sudo su.
If i tell you that you have to ask first everytime you leave your house would you do it? Or would you feel like a slave?
Typing everytime sudo su is the second for me.

I have dont set a password for user "pi" and i dont want do that.

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Re: Passwords for Stretch

Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:23 pm

user12345 wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:25 pm
If i tell you that you have to ask first everytime you leave your house would you do it? Or would you feel like a slave?
I have dont set a password for user "pi" and i dont want do that.

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pi@pi3:~ $ 
pi@pi3:~ $ sudo su
root@pi3:/home/pi# 
root@pi3:/home/pi# 
See! I didn't have to give a password to do that ....

It would be better for obvious safety reasons if I did have to.

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