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Noobs and File association

Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:00 pm

Renently I have had trouble unzipping Pi files like NOOBs on PC . I have not noticed this before so I think it is a recent thing . After unzipping , the file association (with NOOBS, it is the 2 recovery files) that appears on some files is wrong . Usually I can sort out file association problems but not this time : the 2 recovery files in the NOOBS folder remain stubbornly tied to the wrong and unwanted association. I have noticed this on other PI files as well , so it is not just NOOBS that is affected. I have tried 3 different PCs and the same thing happens . Is there a way to restore these files back to what they should be and stop it happening again? Why are these files arbitrarily being taken over like this? What type of files are the recovery files? (the other files appear OK). The application that took over these files is legitimate (though a bit specialist) so I do not want to delete it

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Re: Noobs and File association

Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:53 pm

herbacious26 wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:00 pm
Renently I have had trouble unzipping Pi files like NOOBs on PC . I have not noticed this before so I think it is a recent thing . After unzipping , the file association (with NOOBS, it is the 2 recovery files) that appears on some files is wrong . Usually I can sort out file association problems but not this time : the 2 recovery files in the NOOBS folder remain stubbornly tied to the wrong and unwanted association. I have noticed this on other PI files as well , so it is not just NOOBS that is affected. I have tried 3 different PCs and the same thing happens . Is there a way to restore these files back to what they should be and stop it happening again? Why are these files arbitrarily being taken over like this? What type of files are the recovery files? (the other files appear OK). The application that took over these files is legitimate (though a bit specialist) so I do not want to delete it
Not a Pi problem but...

Use Etcher no need to unzip the NOOBS image.

Just for curiosity, what are the file extensions (I've never used nor felt the need to use NOOBS) and what is the specialist app that is claiming ownership.
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Re: Noobs and File association

Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:16 pm

wildfire wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:53 pm
Use Etcher no need to unzip the NOOBS image.
ahm, i know about a PINN image,
but NOOBS is a ZIP of NOOBS files to be copied to a formatted SD card.
( or other wording: unzipped to SD card )
so etcher no use in that case.
herbacious26 wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:00 pm
unzipping Pi files like NOOBs on PC
file association is depending on the OS,
how can you complain about your PCs without naming their OS, windows or linux PCs?
anyhow handling of NOOBS files are usually restricted to making a SD card for RPI only.

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Re: Noobs and File association

Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:48 pm

KLL wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:16 pm
ahm, i know about a PINN image,
but NOOBS is a ZIP of NOOBS files to be copied to a formatted SD card.
( or other wording: unzipped to SD card )
so etcher no use in that case.

Fair enough I assumed a windows PC (my apologies) but, etcher does unzip and burn the image to an unformated SD card with no problem.
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Re: Noobs and File association

Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:00 pm

wildfire wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:48 pm
etcher does unzip and burn the image to an unformated SD card with no problem.
Like you, I've not used NOOBS, so at the risk of appearing to be a complete idiot:
AIUI, NOOBS comes as a zip of files, not a zip of an image. Etcher cannot install that.
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Re: Noobs and File association

Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:20 pm

wildfire wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:48 pm
KLL wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:16 pm
ahm, i know about a PINN image,
but NOOBS is a ZIP of NOOBS files to be copied to a formatted SD card.
( or other wording: unzipped to SD card )
so etcher no use in that case.

Fair enough I assumed a windows PC (my apologies) but, etcher does unzip and burn the image to an unformated SD card with no problem.

NoobS is not an .IMG file format..

The SD Card needs to be FAT32 formatted and the .zip needs to be unzipped with software like 7zip, then the unpacked files need to be copied to the SD Card in a SDHC Card Reader.


In my opinion forget NoobS and use Etcher to both unzip and create a bootable SD Card of standalone Raspbian:

https://etcher.io

https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
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Re: Noobs and File association

Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:25 pm

wildfire wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:48 pm
KLL wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:16 pm
ahm, i know about a PINN image,
but NOOBS is a ZIP of NOOBS files to be copied to a formatted SD card.
( or other wording: unzipped to SD card )
so etcher no use in that case.

Fair enough I assumed a windows PC (my apologies) but, etcher does unzip and burn the image to an unformated SD card with no problem.
But NOOBS is NOT an image. It is NOT "burned" to the card. In fact, not needing "burning" was a major raison d'etre..
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Re: Noobs and File association

Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:01 pm

Yeah, looked at NOOBS again after I posted, so please ignore my posts in this thread.

However, I will state this... The more I learn about NOOBS the more I despise it.

Whoever thought up this nasty piece of work should look in a mirror and see Frankenstien, because this is the monster he/she/they created.
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Re: Noobs and File association

Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:12 pm

wildfire wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:01 pm
Yeah, looked at NOOBS again after I posted, so please ignore my posts in this thread.

However, I will state this... The more I learn about NOOBS the more I despise it.

Whoever thought up this nasty piece of work should look in a mirror and see Frankenstien, because this is the monster he/she/they created.
I've never used it myself. At the time it was devised there did seem to be a lot of RPi newcomers who for some reason or other seemed incapable of successfully burning an image even if a life depended on it.

PINN appears to be an attempt at a better NOOBS. I haven't used that either so don't have an opinion.
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Re: Noobs and File association

Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:54 am

TBH, whether NOOBS, PINN or another OS I'm still curious as to what file extensions are being claimed by another application and what that application is.

@herbacious26

The OS is unimportant, the filesystem is FAT so it will likely have an extension, are you willing to post this and the application which is claiming ownership?
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