My first thought was "What foam pad?" No foam pads were involved when I "camera tested" my Pi0W:mahjongg wrote: ...
P.S. I looked at the pictures but I didn't grasp why a foam pad would damage the camera board. What damage is actually done? Is a component removed from the board, or what?
Thank you very much. This is my first post on the forum, and I wasn't sure what was the right place to post this kind of question.
The case was clearly designed for a camera board where the module sits flat on the PCB. With the PCB secured by the mounting clips, the front of the module touches the wall of the housing. In my camera the module is mounted on the board using a piece of foam with glue. After inserting the board into the case the foam compresses a bit, but still has non-negligible thickness. This contributes to the overall thickness of the camera board, and even with front of the camera module pressed against the case, the mounting clips are too short to grab the board.
Is the camera module in yours mounted on a foam pad? My impression is that the case has been designed for a board where the module sits flat on the board, and since then someone made a decision to put a spacer between them.
W.r.t. to my previous post - AFAICT, from the photo's on the main RPF website (https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/camera-module-v2/ ) there appears to be no "foam pad" associated with the (newer than mine) module (there) too. So, to clarify:3J8lftJvhqkEqNjI wrote:Is the camera module in yours mounted on a foam pad? My impression is that the case has been designed for a board where the module sits flat on the board, and since then someone made a decision to put a spacer between them.
It seems to me (and my view might be mistaken) is that notwithstanding the advice from Adafruit this is an instance where you actually need the attention of official representatives of the Raspberry Pi Foundation. For that particular purpose you might be better off using the email contact form here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/contact/Adafruit support said that it is not their problem, the camera board and the case are made by RasPi Foundation, and I should bring the issue up on the forum: https://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.p ... 74#p615774
Thanks for the clarification (I've re-flagged this post in the mods area where @mahjongg copied it to). What intrigues me somewhat is that the photo in the adafruit link (https://www.adafruit.com/product/3414 ) shows that camera module mounted outside of the Pi ZeroW case using the "plain" (ie. no camera lens "hole") lid/top. So this could be a "knock-on" effect from some other change (to the camera module) that hasn't (yet) been properly documented. (OOC, I wonder if the foam pad is really a "double-sided" sticky pad and intended to be used to fix the module to the "plain" lid?)3J8lftJvhqkEqNjI wrote: Ad 1: The camera was purchased from Adafruit, as part of a bundle containing RPiW, "Pi Foundation Official Pi Zero Case + Mini Camera Cable", and "Raspberry Pi Camera Board v2 - 8 Megapixels": https://www.adafruit.com/product/3414
Ad 2: The camera board sent from Adafruit had camera module already mounted on the board using the foam pad.
The problem was reported to Adafruit, and they send a replacement board identical to the first one.
The picture attached to the previous post shows the camera board, exactly as it was shipped.
Adafruit support said that it is not their problem, the camera board and the case are made by RasPi Foundation, and I should bring the issue up on the forum: https://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.p ... 74#p615774
Damn, completely forgot. Will try and remember tomorrow.
Glad I found this! There must be many people with this problem!
You can still use the Pi-Zero camera case/cover, but gently put the camera in position WITHOUT USING ANY FORCE, so that the lens is in the cover hole. It might be under a slight angle, but that is no problem. Fasten it with tape (the one painter's use, no duct tape) to the cover. Make sure the little board is isolated and it can make no electrical contact with the Pi-Zero. Note that the camera WILL NOT slip on all 4 little plastic poles in this way.cosinezero wrote: Here's the fix, though - toss the case in the trash (or demand a refund). BUT your camera may not be broken!
This helped me a lot, with two camera's a thought I had ruined. They still worked but the images were out of focus/blurred. After pulling out the little front (sunny side) connector and reconnecting it again the images were a lot better, but there is still some damage, the pictures are not as sharp as before the "case incidents."cosinezero wrote: The case seems to unseat the SUNNY connector (front of camera). When I reseated that connector the camera would work again. So I'd try to put it back in the case, and the camera would break again. Take it back out, reseat connector, works again.
I am sorry to agree that the cases are not well designed for camera use. (Or was it meant for a different camera? I would like to know which type if this is the case). Lots of people will run into problems and think the cameras (v2 or so) or the Zero's are crap, which they definitely are not, I love both products!cosinezero wrote: What the hell. These cases aren't properly designed for the camera that costs more than the case and the zero itself.
Many thanks for this! I can still use the two camera's I damaged, but just not for high performance photo's.cosinezero wrote: Anyways, try the SUNNY connector before you toss the camera out... it might not be be broken.