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Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:59 pm

Hey, Was hoping you guys could help me out. This coming Novemeber I'll be in Istanbul for approximately 4 weeks for work. I was doing some reading and I realize that you can't really access Youtube, Facebook or even Google in Turkey. Naturally, this is something that I definitely can't go without for 4 weeks. My question is a little paranoid but wondering how safe is it to use a VPN in a country like this? These websites have been banned and I guess are technically illegal. I don't want to get into any legal trouble while there for a few weeks but still want to keep reading Western based news. Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey? I translated some of the suggests on https://eniyivpn.org and the author said that VPNs are pretty common in Turkey and most officials don't really care. Anyways, still looking forward to hearing what you guys think. Cheers. :)

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:12 am

Probably your best bet would be to contact the State Department and ask them about it, and in particular, what rights you have (or don't have) as a US citizen in a foreign country. Generally the best policy is to act like all local laws apply to you...since the almost certainly do. Also note that countries that block web sites--like what Turkey is doing--pretty rapidly try to control VPN or other tunneling techniques as well once they figure out that people use such services to bypass official restrictions.

tl;DR Get ready to go "cold turkey".

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:05 am

Searching Google there's lots of results for VPN Turkey and it's common to bypass their controls. I wish I'd done that, not being able to use some search engines and the Wiki was frustrating in the extreme. Some bit of IBM.com were blocked and that stops me doing my day job. The company I was working at only had a private wired network, no WiFi on site. They loaned us a company laptop for the week (that bit worked brilliantly - got that on day one).

If you can reach https://translate.google.com you can use that as a web proxy, select translate from English to English and enter the URL you can't reach in the left hand box.

Set up OpenVPN on your Raspberry at home with

Code: Select all

push "redirect-gateway def1"
https://openvpn.net/index.php/open-sour ... l#redirect and you can do it for free.

The thing I'd suggest (not web related) is don't get a rental car, take a fist full of Turkish Lira and use the taxis (you do need peril sensitive sun glasses for a taxi ride, but it's less scary than driving in Istanbul during Ramadan).

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:10 am

Thanks for your help guys :)

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:35 am

Here is your answer brother! Let me do the research for you, sir.

Is VPN Legal in Turkey? No

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey’s 25th prime minister, and current prime minister at the time of writing this has publicly expressed his dislike for social media, and his administration has initiated the blocking of various sites. It is therefore not surprising that usage of a VPN is illegal in the country.

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:12 am

Thanks for the info bro.

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:47 pm

Hey Gary!

I'm planning on nipping over to Istanbul in a couple weeks actually, so came across your question about VPNs in Turkey now.

Awesome replies from this forum, so I decided to join :) . For me it was less about the privacy protection and just about being able to keep my UK-restricted online subscriptions viewable while I'm in Turkey (I'm going to stay there for a month).

This might be slightly off-topic for this thread (sorry in advance!) but I had a similar question when traveling to China last year. I knew that Google and its services were banned there, so I wanted to know if a VPN would work (needed to access my Gmail daily, which was blocked). This guide helped me out https://fried.com/guides/how-to-access-gmail-in-china/ but I heard that VPNs are going to be nationally blocked completely within China in early 2018. :shock:

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:13 pm

Good luck guys.

As far as I know you are wanting to break the law in the countries you are visiting.

You could end up in jail for a few decades in these primitive hell holes.

Good luck.

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:40 pm

Yes, I have been to vacation to Turkey and unfortunately that time Twitter was blocked by the Urdagan's government. I was shocked and I couldn't get it work, that time I use VPN. I can share a list of couple of VPNs that works in Turkey, have a look

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:20 am

garystevens wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:59 pm
Hey, Was hoping you guys could help me out. This coming Novemeber I'll be in Istanbul for approximately 4 weeks for work. I was doing some reading and I realize that you can't really access Youtube порно, Facebook or even Google in Turkey. Naturally, this is something that I definitely can't go without for 4 weeks. My question is a little paranoid but wondering how safe is it to use a VPN in a country like this? These websites have been banned and I guess are technically illegal. I don't want to get into any legal trouble while there for a few weeks but still want to keep reading Western based news. Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey? I translated some of the suggests on https://eniyivpn.org and the author said that VPNs are pretty common in Turkey and most officials don't really care. Anyways, still looking forward to hearing what you guys think. Cheers. :)
Here is your answer brother! Let me do the research for you, sir.

Is VPN Legal in Turkey? No

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey’s 25th prime minister, and current prime minister at the time of writing this has publicly expressed his dislike for social media, and his administration has initiated the blocking of various sites. It is therefore not surprising that usage of a VPN is illegal in the country.

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:22 pm

This is complete menace and atrocity towards internet users like myself. It's a no-brainer that we all have to use VPNs now to save our data and not just any VPN for Turkey but some super fast ones as Security experts have given their verdict and VPNs are the only true way to encrypt your online communications
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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:39 pm

Densetsu wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:22 pm
This is complete menace and atrocity towards internet users like myself. It's a no-brainer that we all have to use VPNs now to save our data and not just any VPN for Turkey but some super fast ones as Security experts have given their verdict and VPNs are the only true way to encrypt your online communications
Welcome to the forums.

You're quite right. The official national laws of the Turkish government are restrictive and anti-thetical to the free use of the internet. That is, of course, exactly *why* those laws were put into effect. The Turkish government (like sevaral other autocratic regimes) wants to restrict news and opinions available to their own people. Therefore, ways around official network blocks are declared illegal and subversive and subject to criminal penalties. It is also to restrict any chance that someone inside the country can get away with saying anything unkind or critical about the dictator who is running the country.

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:56 am

Here is your answer brother! Let me do the research for you, sir.

Is VPN Legal in Turkey? No

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey’s 25th prime minister, and current prime minister at the time of writing this has publicly expressed his dislike for social media, and his administration has initiated the blocking of various sites. It is therefore not surprising that usage of a VPN is illegal in the country. :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:05 am

They can not stop you using a VPN...
In the UK, a lot and I mean a lot of sites are blocked. you can bypass this block by using a VPN or if you want to hide your browsing data from your ISP; you use a VPN.

And no, it's not "illegal" to use a VPN.
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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:03 pm

Densetsu,
It's a no-brainer that we all have to use VPNs now to save our data and not just any VPN for Turkey but some super fast ones as Security experts have given their verdict and VPNs are the only true way to encrypt your online communications
This is dangerous nonsense.

Please direct us to anywhere where "Security experts have given their verdict and VPNs are the only true way to encrypt your online communications"

At the end of the day your VPN connection stops at your VPN service provider. Whoever that is can see what you are doing. Do you know who is behind your VPN service?

Read and think about the following: https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2019/ ... n-you-use/

Who do you trust? And Why?

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:10 pm

Heater wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:03 pm
Densetsu,
It's a no-brainer that we all have to use VPNs now to save our data and not just any VPN for Turkey but some super fast ones as Security experts have given their verdict and VPNs are the only true way to encrypt your online communications
This is dangerous nonsense.

Please direct us to anywhere where "Security experts have given their verdict and VPNs are the only true way to encrypt your online communications"

At the end of the day your VPN connection stops at your VPN service provider. Whoever that is can see what you are doing. Do you know who is behind your VPN service?

Read and think about the following: https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2019/ ... n-you-use/

Who do you trust? And Why?
This is a good reply; something to think of.
I'm good because my VPN provider has a "zero" log policy.
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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:32 pm

thatchunkylad198966 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:05 am
They can not stop you using a VPN...
In the UK, a lot and I mean a lot of sites are blocked. you can bypass this block by using a VPN or if you want to hide your browsing data from your ISP; you use a VPN.

And no, it's not "illegal" to use a VPN.
You are an expert on Turkish law, I take it?

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:49 pm

W. H. Heydt wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:32 pm
thatchunkylad198966 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:05 am
They can not stop you using a VPN...
In the UK, a lot and I mean a lot of sites are blocked. you can bypass this block by using a VPN or if you want to hide your browsing data from your ISP; you use a VPN.

And no, it's not "illegal" to use a VPN.
You are an expert on Turkish law, I take it?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

No matter what country you're in, using a VPN is not illegal. ;)
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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:11 pm

thatchunkylad198966,
No matter what country you're in, using a VPN is not illegal.
Why do you post such obvious nonsense?

https://thebestvpn.com/are-vpns-legal-banned-countries/

Of course using a VPN in the privacy of you own home is probably OK. But that is far from the topic here.

I know you are joking but this is serious business.

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:17 pm

thatchunkylad198966 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:49 pm
No matter what country you're in, using a VPN is not illegal. ;)
Rubbish. Certain countries have banned the use of VPNs and others are restricting usage to "approved" VPNs.

A quick web search will show you lists of countries where that is the case.

It may be possible to use an unapproved VPN in those countries, but if found out you would be in trouble.

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:14 pm

I stand corrected -- I didn't mean no harm.
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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:54 pm

thatchunkylad198966 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:14 pm
I stand corrected -- I didn't mean no harm.
I hope so, and read "did mean no harm", no double denial, I would really not want you to endanger our readers, If I can think of one "bannable offence", endangering our readers would be it.

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Re: Does anyone have experience using a VPN in Turkey?

Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:13 pm

thatchunkylad198966 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:10 pm
...
I'm good because my VPN provider has a "zero" log policy.
You hope.

Even with a warrant canary (e.g. here assuming it’s still up) this is a concern you should always have :o :lol: :cry:
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