NOOBS is incomplete [Solved]

[waldmattis]

Hi,
today (April-9-2017) I downloaded NOOBS.
The compressed ZIP-file is 1.1GB and after unZIPing the uncompressed folder has the same size.

After copying to microSD and booting it with Pi3, the only option given is to install Raspbian.
All other options described on the official downloadpage are missing.

Is this a known problem or do I something wrong?

Is there an other way to install multiboot system to a single microSD?

Thanks all trying to help.
Regards
Karl

[kusti8]

You need to be connected to the Internet to download the other OSes.

[waldmattis]

You need to be connected to the Internet to download the other OSes.

@kusti8
Thank you for very quick reply.

The download page says:
"The NOOBS files contained in the ZIP archive are over 4GB in size,
which means that these archives use features which are not supported
by older unzip tools on some platforms"

Is this incorrect?
As I wrote, after unZIPing I only got 1.1GB uncompressed folder size.

Regards
Karl

[joan]

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NOOBS is an easy operating system installer which contains Raspbian. It also provides a selection of alternative operating systems which are then downloaded from the internet and installed.
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[FTrevorGowen]

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The download page says:
"The NOOBS files contained in the ZIP archive are over 4GB in size,
which means that these archives use features which are not supported
by older unzip tools on some platforms"
Is this incorrect?
As I wrote, after unZIPing I only got 1.1GB uncompressed folder size.
...

Just for clarification - what tool and under what O.S. did you use to unzip NOOBS? (eg. for Windows 7zip is recommended)
Note also that the "im(a)g(e)" file(s) that NOOBS uses to install the O.S.('s) are also compressed (IIRC, NOOBS itself uncompresses it/them during the install process - and, at that point, they/it will become >4Gb)**
Trev.
** ie. NOOBS effectively does what I did here "manually" (see link below) for a Raspbian image file (but the NOOBS compressed image is compressed using a different method):
http://www.cpmspectrepi.uk/raspberry_pi ... Win10.html

[waldmattis]

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The download page says:
"The NOOBS files contained in the ZIP archive are over 4GB in size,
which means that these archives use features which are not supported
by older unzip tools on some platforms"
Is this incorrect?
As I wrote, after unZIPing I only got 1.1GB uncompressed folder size.
...

Just for clarification - what tool and under what O.S. did you use to unzip NOOBS? (eg. for Windows 7zip is recommended)
Note also that the "im(a)g(e)" file(s) that NOOBS uses to install the O.S.('s) are also compressed (IIRC, NOOBS itself uncompresses it/them during the install process - and, at that point, they/it will become >4Gb)
Trev.

@FTrevorGowen
I unzipped using
- 7zip under Windows 7
- Ubuntu

In both cases same result

[rpdom]

The download page says:
"The NOOBS files contained in the ZIP archive are over 4GB in size,
which means that these archives use features which are not supported
by older unzip tools on some platforms"

Is this incorrect?
As I wrote, after unZIPing I only got 1.1GB uncompressed folder size.

The notes are slightly misleading. The NOOBS zipfile unzips to about 1.2GB in my tests. This is because in contains an xz compressed copy of Raspbian which is uncompressed to the full 4GB+ when you run the install from NOOBS. That uses the internal xz decompression routine in NOOBS. The fact that the native Windows unzip routine can't unzip files where the uncompressed size it >4GB is irrelevant in this case. It only applies when you are using the straight image files, not NOOBS.

[FTrevorGowen]

@FTrevorGowen
I unzipped using
- 7zip under Windows 7
- Ubuntu
In both cases same result

O.K. I haven't bothered with NOOBS for some time (since I no longer have regular access to Windows machines) but, FWIW, how does what you see compare with this Windows 7/NOOBS 1.4 test (file sizes were probably smaller then):
http://www.cpmspectrepi.uk/raspberry_pi ... 14P2B.html
Since you can use Ubuntu, if it's Raspbian you wish to install, then you're better off using a raw image file (no uSDHC card formatting required) and Linux methods:
https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... /README.md
https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... s/linux.md
and, FWIW, using a working Pi (although it's probably easier to just use Raspbian's built-in "SD Card copier"):
http://www.cpmspectrepi.uk/raspberry_pi ... lPi3B.html
Trev.

[FTrevorGowen]

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The notes are slightly misleading. The NOOBS zipfile unzips to about 1.2GB in my tests. This is because in contains an xz compressed copy of Raspbian which is uncompressed to the full 4GB+ when you run the install from NOOBS. That uses the internal xz decompression routine in NOOBS. The fact that the native Windows unzip routine can't unzip files where the uncompressed size it >4GB is irrelevant in this case. It only applies when you are using the straight image files, not NOOBS.

Thanks @rpdom, that's what I thought/suspected but, not having used NOOBS for some time, couldn't confirm.
Trev.

[ShiftPlusOne]

That note should be about the Raspbian files, not the NOOBS files. Will get it fixed.

[waldmattis]

Thanks to all who helped!
Finally I got it working.

Can please somebody mark this thread as solved?

Regards
Karl

[waldmattis]

Thanks to all who helped!
Finally I got it working.

Can please somebody mark this thread as solved?

Regards
Karl

[DirkS]

Can please somebody mark this thread as solved?

You can do that yourself by adding '[Solved]' to the topic title of your first post

[FTrevorGowen]

Can please somebody mark this thread as solved?

You can do that yourself by adding '[Solved]' to the topic title of your first post

+1, @waldmattis however I'll do it for you this time.
Trev.