[SOLVED] how to make RPi IoT realtime online ?

[adeguntoro]

first of all, sorry for my bad english.
and this is my first time i'm join with IoT.
i want make a little project, just for me, it's about how i can monitoring online my sensor, so i can see my sensor from anywhere via browser.
can you show me simple tutorial / link, so i can learn more about this..
thank you.

[topguy]

There is one big decision you will have to make:
- Should the web-page be hosted on the Raspberry Pi ? ( example: https://github.com/node-red/node-red-dashboard )
- Or should the sensor date just be uploaded to the cloud and the web-page created there ? ( example: http://freeboard.io/ )

Its always helpful to know which programming languages you already know or want to learn.

[StephenCJones]

Since upgrading my pi3 two hours ago, Node-Red no longer works. The command lines seem to suggest that email etc needs to be added. All I want is the program to work as before. Can anyone help please.
Thanks
Stephen

[adeguntoro]

There is one big decision you will have to make:
- Should the web-page be hosted on the Raspberry Pi ? ( example: https://github.com/node-red/node-red-dashboard )
- Or should the sensor date just be uploaded to the cloud and the web-page created there ? ( example: http://freeboard.io/ )

Its always helpful to know which programming languages you already know or want to learn.

well, thank you for your help.
oke, first yes, it should be hosted on the raspberry, because i have another plan to make cluster or HA server with my raspberry pi.
and programing ai already learn is java, php, html, and python..
and this raspberry also will become data collector few sensor.

[texy]

Since upgrading my pi3 two hours ago, Node-Red no longer works. The command lines seem to suggest that email etc needs to be added. All I want is the program to work as before. Can anyone help please.
Thanks
Stephen

Please start a new thread on this issue.
Texy

[topguy]

oke, first yes, it should be hosted on the raspberry, because i have another plan to make cluster or HA server with my raspberry pi.

Ok.. so the next question is: Do you prefer to use a web-server like Apache (a LAMP solution probably) or would you test out Python web-framework like "Flask" ( https://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/py ... ith-flask/ ) ?

[adeguntoro]

oke, first yes, it should be hosted on the raspberry, because i have another plan to make cluster or HA server with my raspberry pi.

Ok.. so the next question is: Do you prefer to use a web-server like Apache (a LAMP solution probably) or would you test out Python web-framework like "Flask" ( https://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/py ... ith-flask/ ) ?

woah, thanks for link, it's very helpful.
absolutely yes, but, how i can control / program my sensor ??

[topguy]

absolutely yes

Yes to what exactly ? Flask ?

how i can control / program my sensor ??

You haven't told us anything about your sensor yet.

[adeguntoro]

absolutely yes

Yes to what exactly ? Flask ?

how i can control / program my sensor ??

You haven't told us anything about your sensor yet.

exactly with lamp..

and for sensor, it can be any sensor, because the goal of this project is i can monitor my sensor from anywhere..
okay, for example is moisture sensor..

[topguy]

There are probably hundreds of LAMP guides for raspberry pi out on the internet.
There is even one on this site: https://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/la ... wordpress/ ( you can skip the wordpress steps if you like )

okay, for example is moisture sensor..

And there is a lot of examples there just a google away. Much more detailed than anyone will bother to write in this forum: https://www.modmypi.com/blog/raspberry- ... n-tutorial

A typical setup would be to run some Python program to read the sensors and put the data into the MySQL database. Then the PHP program running on Apache only have to worry about presenting those data on the web-page.

[adeguntoro]

There are probably hundreds of LAMP guides for raspberry pi out on the internet.
There is even one on this site: https://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/la ... wordpress/ ( you can skip the wordpress steps if you like )

okay, for example is moisture sensor..

And there is a lot of examples there just a google away. Much more detailed than anyone will bother to write in this forum: https://www.modmypi.com/blog/raspberry- ... n-tutorial

A typical setup would be to run some Python program to read the sensors and put the data into the MySQL database. Then the PHP program running on Apache only have to worry about presenting those data on the web-page.

so i found lot of tutorial, but mostly they use RPi 2, and i'm using RPi 3 B..
is any difference betwen script on RPi 2, RPi 3B , RPi Zero ??
i'm gonna use Moisture Sensor and MCP3008..

[drjam]

can you link the tutorial please?
I am REALLY having hard time getting my brain around all the separate things i need to make this work for me too.

[alphanumeric]

Being a Pi 2 or Pi 3 or Zero shouldn't matter. The GPIO is that same pinout on all Pi's with a 40 pin header.

What I try to do, sensor wise. Is find ones that talk over the I2C, and have a python library available. It what works for me.

[adeguntoro]

can you link the tutorial please?
I am REALLY having hard time getting my brain around all the separate things i need to make this work for me too.

well, basicly it easy. You just need to use simple programing to upload your data into realtime database, and display it into HTML. i use Firebase, i will upload my project as soon as possible from my github repo. https://github.com/adeguntoro/Firebae

[drjam]

thanks guv.
ive just worked out that i can also do these things:
1. possibly change Grafana to port 80 and stop nginx (maybe?)
2. have nginx in front of grafana and have it proxy request to grafana
3. redirect wormhole traffic to another port and then forward that to port 80

ill try it all out and post here as well... so we can all grow smarter. thanks again!

[adeguntoro]

are you use offline database ?

[drjam]

UPDATE
decided to flick third party services for now, the cost is too high for what i want to do (and for what i can charge people for)
im using a Virtual Machine running Linux, with Grafana and Influx setup on that.
on the remote computers / servers, i am running telegraf and that is sending metrics to the WAN of where i am hosting the Linux Grafana box.

I wish Dataplicity's Wormhole would have allowed me to view the Pi's Grafana Website ANYWHERE, id gladly pay them for that. But it dodnt work, I could not change the reverse proxy settings to allow it to show Grafana internal dashboard site, instead of the Welcome to Dataplicity page on your device:yay.

oh well. Im keeping one pi alive on Dataplicity because the remote access to the pi from there IS USEFUL....not at $2 per month just to reboot it, but i might figure it out later.

and no, not offline database, im using Influxdb on the same VM as Grafana. host OS is ubuntu.

[Elliot_M]

Hi there
Happy to help you get it running if you like... wormhole should work, but if grafana dashboard uses something other than localhost port 80 you may need to either adjust the reverse proxy or put up an nginx one in front to do the redirect (wormhole will listen only on this interface and this port).

Apologies for the slow response in advance, am just about to board a plane, but will check back in when I land tomorrow.

Best
Elliot

[adeguntoro]

Hi there
Happy to help you get it running if you like... wormhole should work, but if grafana dashboard uses something other than localhost port 80 you may need to either adjust the reverse proxy or put up an nginx one in front to do the redirect (wormhole will listen only on this interface and this port).

Apologies for the slow response in advance, am just about to board a plane, but will check back in when I land tomorrow.

Best
Elliot

Well, thank you for you advace, and sorry for not update my title, it's already fixed. I use Firebase for my online database, and it's realtime, i upload data from my sensor using some kind Python Library, it call as Pyrebase. And to show data from firebase i use javascript, very simple and always change when data is changed or new input.
For input data, i use one more file from google service account for security reason, so just me as the owner can read, delete, update and input data from raspberry into firebase. so, theres no special setting, just connect raspberry with internet ( i try with 1Mbps connection, 90 ping to google.com), run python program, and i can see data "feed" into firebase from Firebase console.

but let me try you idea for bigger project on my university.
thanks.