Welcome MR NEW MODERATOR !!ejolson wrote:In the last year I have seen the following played out a number of times:
1. A new forum member makes his or her first post.
2. The post says something like "if the wonderful Pi also had wonderful feature X, then I could do Y with it" or asks the similar question "will feature X ever be available, because I would like to do Y."
3. Old members make fun of the new member for wanting something which doesn't exist and start asking for unicorns and ponies.
4. The moderator locks the thread which the new member started.
5. The new member never posts again.
I believe it is possible to be more welcoming to new members. Any thoughts?
There are way too many first posts that never should have been allowed.fruitoftheloom wrote:Though first post has to be Moderated, so why is a I demand want insist post being allowed ?
Really? Mine do, just select Watch, and you will get notified when there is a new post.ghans wrote:Newcomers don't seem know that this forum doesn't
notify them on replies to their topics via EMail.
Let's not generalize. Us oldies have been have been dealing with computers for decades and the internet/forums etc since ever there were any.Many of the older do not know the ins and out of the various tick boxes,
I said many and not all , that is just my experience over the years on forums. Back they they were being introduced and encouraged to computers, I was much younger tooHeater wrote:bensimmo,Let's not generalize. Us oldies have been have been dealing with computers for decades and the internet/forums etc since ever there were any.Many of the older do not know the ins and out of the various tick boxes,
Let me put a different spin on this...
Coming here and making your first post a request for some dream features of yours to be added to the Pi(next) is almost rude.
It's like getting a present from your auntie at Christmas and then glowering at her and saying "I hope you get me something better next year".
Just a FYI, there's been one recently aged 5bensimmo wrote: ... The people could be 13*, 16, 20, 40, 70 etc.
*I don't know if this forum always under 13's
Usenet had the same kinds of problem every September, until AOL opened general connections to newsgroups and it got the "endless September". This is NOT a new problem.bensimmo wrote:Yes, but a new users brought up on facebook et al, does not know the complications of a forum.
Tried it on a desktop (27" monitor). Hated it. Switched back in under 5 minutes. Prosilver is not a panacea.I've only just moved to prosilver but it's a bugger to use on a phone, I had forgotten about 'skins' and somebody mentioned it so I switched, it makes the forum on a desktop screen easier.
Whooh. That one's first post will go down in history.Burngate wrote:Just a FYI, there's been one recently aged 5bensimmo wrote: ... The people could be 13*, 16, 20, 40, 70 etc.
*I don't know if this forum always under 13's
The RPF folks have been promising us a forum revamp for best part of two years. They've been promising to get rid of the PiStore mess for almost as long. It's not happening, live with it.bensimmo wrote:The raspi one has horrible layout problems on this phone (MotoG, Android 5, Chrome, 720x1280) also, but does at least have sensible sized text.
At the same time, it is even more rude for old members to make fun of new members with remarks about unicorns and ponies. Maybe it would be more welcoming to reply with kindness rather than sarcasm.Heater wrote:Coming here and making your first post a request for some dream features of yours to be added to the Pi(next) is almost rude.
Back in the day... It was good general advice, when interested in a newsgroup one hadn't read, let alone posted in, to read the group traffic for a couple of weeks before posting *anything*. The idea being that anyone new to a given group needed to see what the social norms for the group were and what topics (besides the obvious ones from the group name and anything that could be gleaned from the FAQ) were tolerated.ejolson wrote:At the same time, it is even more rude for old members to make fun of new members with remarks about unicorns and ponies. Maybe it would be more welcoming to reply with kindness rather than sarcasm.Heater wrote:Coming here and making your first post a request for some dream features of yours to be added to the Pi(next) is almost rude.
That's very much a "YMMV" thing. The last thing I need is a pile of e-mail stating that a thread I've commented in has new posts. If I want to see if anything new is in a thread, I'll go look, otherwise not. One can argue which behavior should be the default, but notice that the feature *is* available for those that want it. If people are surprised to find out about the feature, that sheds light on the degree to which people are willing to examine the forum feature set to determine what things they want set how. (Much of this is why I really miss trn.)tausciam wrote:I'm a new member and didn't realize that, when you post or comment, it doesn't automatically subscribe you to that thread...... They really should do something about that.
Glad to hear that. I have noted from time to time that the RPF community is large and active, and that this is in contrast to the communities around any number of other SBCs. It's really just a feedback loop...a large community of interested people developed, which means there is active community support, which means the community (and the knowledge within it) grows, and we go around the loop...But, at least with this forum, people actually seem willing to help when you have a question. In other communities, including the Odroid community, you may or may not ever get a reply or help. As far as the feature requests, they should just make a sticky saying hardware feature requests are not allowed and leave it at that. Honestly...what do you expect for $35? It's a great value as is
Three words came to mind immediately:Pithagoros wrote:...some regulars are condescending, rude, snarky, sanctimonious, supercilious...
The first time I read this I thought it was humorous in a certain way. To the back of my mind I thought to myself, this must be one of those "-isms" considering the Pi originated from the UK. This was before I joined this forum.Nonsense, balderdash, poppycock.