Adrianfu
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Software shut down

Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:49 am

I have my Pi setup using a PC monitor connected via a HDMI to DVI-D adaptor a USB WiFi dongle. There was no problem setting this up and can connect to the internet via our wifi setup at home. Problem I am having is when browsing using Epiphany the browser shuts down for no apparent reason. I have updated the OS without issues. Is this a known issue or am I doing something wrong? Should I be using another browser?

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Re: Software shut down

Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:08 am

Adrianfu wrote:I have my Pi setup using a PC monitor connected via a HDMI to DVI-D adaptor a USB WiFi dongle. There was no problem setting this up and can connect to the internet via our wifi setup at home. Problem I am having is when browsing using Epiphany the browser shuts down for no apparent reason. I have updated the OS without issues. Is this a known issue or am I doing something wrong? Should I be using another browser?

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First try updating the OS:

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
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Re: Software shut down

Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:12 am

which RPi? model
is the power good ?
what is measured on the test points
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Re: Software shut down

Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:25 am

Did you expand the file system?
Does the browser crash when opening a special URL (post it please) or with any URL?
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Re: Software shut down

Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:46 pm

I did update the OS
RPi is a Pi 2 b+ Power supply is a 5v 2 amp have not measured test points
I expanded the file system. Browser crashes at random intervals on any website including this site/Google and any ham related site. Really any site.

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Re: Software shut down

Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:59 pm

Adrianfu wrote:I did update the OS
RPi is a Pi 2 b+ Power supply is a 5v 2 amp have not measured test points
I expanded the file system. Browser crashes at random intervals on any website including this site/Google and any ham related site. Really any site.

Adrian
Try IceWeasel (Firefox ESR) Browser

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install iceweasel

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Re: Software shut down

Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:11 pm

Adrianfu wrote:I did update the OS
RPi is a Pi 2 b+ Power supply is a 5v 2 amp have not measured test points
I expanded the file system. Browser crashes at random intervals on any website including this site/Google and any ham related site. Really any site.

Adrian
Did you overclock your Pi2?
If not that looks like something is wrong with either your power supply or SD card (browsers write a lot while caching).
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Re: Software shut down

Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:06 pm

Are you running Jessie or an old version of Wheezy?
Epiphany has had a chequered history and it's not unusual for it to crash.
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Re: Software shut down

Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:50 pm

DougieLawson wrote:
Epiphany has had a chequered history and it's not unusual for it to crash.
+1

Epiphany is fast and sleek, but with that comes a little instability. If you leave it running all the time (as I do), then it will, every so often (not frequently, usually after many days of uptime), just disappear. Which leads to point 2, which is that the one thing Epiphany is missing is "session management", aka, crash recovery. There's no way to automatically pick up where you left off after a crash. But you get used to it.

Other browsers, e.g., Iceweasel (which is the only other one I like) do everything (it is, after all, Firefox), but at the cost of massive slowness (when you load up many pages at once).
There is at least one application space where Epiphany just doesn't work and I have to use Iceweasel, but for everything else, I prefer Epiphany, warts and all.

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Re: Software shut down

Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:29 am

Epiphany browser shutsdown (quick and dirty) unexpectedly.

I have Pi 2 (4 Raspberry´s running Jessie) Beginner configuration, Bluetooth working with Bose Adapter (excellent sound by the way) I notice collision between Bluetooth if I connecting while in a video, need to connect bluetooth before I start a video or it crashes the video (meaning hangs up unable to continue or restart. When I close the browser window it doesn´t right away, then blue-ERROR BOX w/option to end session.

I installed clean from image several times as i gained configuration knowledge debugging/stuggling a bluetooth connection on which best bluetooth packages to install and no GUI at first, (success)

I did no extra configuration, allowed Jessie and blueman to manage initial config. ... consistantly Shutsdown unexpected no error messages....

I can run Playlist from Youtube, but often just two videos and it locks up. ...seems like a buffering problem
or memory .. I do try the same sites and have been successful at other times. Pop-ups don´t clear the screen after trying to close , scroll often locks up.. Hangs up in full screen, can paint the image fast enough (wondered Does the monitor supply painting power or does the power to pain the monitor come from the PI) 18¨ ViewSonic monitor HDMI .

I say often, but I am only a pi user for one week now , but it is 18 hours a day hacking on it.

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Re: Software shut down

Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:09 am

1) You should run apt-get update && upgrade after a fresh installation. There have been some recent bug fixes for webkit3 / epiphany.
2) Does the same happen if you don't use your bluetooth speakers (not connected)? If it is somehow connected to bluetooth and you are sure about that you can open an issue at https://github.com/RPi-Distro/repo/issues
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Re: Software shut down

Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:52 pm

gkreidl wrote:1) You should run apt-get update && upgrade after a fresh installation. There have been some recent bug fixes for webkit3 / epiphany.
2) Does the same happen if you don't use your bluetooth speakers (not connected)? If it is somehow connected to bluetooth and you are sure about that you can open an issue at https://github.com/RPi-Distro/repo/issues
Thank you for your response: Update and Upgrade had previously been performed as testing without bluetooth also showed same results with unexpected shutdown. I noticed having a little more PATIENCE with allowing youtube and alike to fully buffer before I start clicking away helps in preventing a crash.(impatient operator)

Yes, Doing a Bluetooth connection while in a session does cause collision if not managed correctly, need to pre connect, have nothing running or you get a hic-cup, even crash(crash = lockup no blueBoX option to end session) need to force end session. Was not real clear on which bluetooth packages to install, tried them all, not all were successful with connecting. I did go with initial apt-get install --no-install-recommends bluetooth , seemed to do it all with bluez-utilz and the alsa-utils packages. It works fine, no fail error messages on boot, all ok.

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Re: Software shut down

Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:31 am

I have had some difficulty doing an initial configuration of Bluetooth.
Followed much suggested installs from google search
get alsa-utils, bluez , I got that and more stuff I did´n need : update this upgrade that.

after another clean install I have no issues as before with trying to configure bluetooth & sound.
I wished someone POSTED more of = all you have to do is look in your add/ remove software Tab and search for
bluetooth under search option:
(Selected the correct ones that I thought apply, I just clicked them all until it worked, then cleaned it up)
and let the manager take care of everything, no hasele, no pairing or connection problems for me it seems.
really wished I read early on that was an opition for initial configuration, just pull it off the menu.
spent two three days on it trying to get sound out of my bluetooth where as I don loose ot the next day.
with unable to connect and system hang ups... hope this helps someone else.

I can´t believe how many lines I had typed on the command line to no avail,
¨$ amix cset numid=3 1¨ was helpful, but never solved my problem.
SUGGEST: NO TYPING, JUST CLICK AN LOAD BLUETOOTH CORRECTLY FROM MENU WORKS TOTAL.

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