davenull
Posts: 1159
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:22 am
Location: a small planet close to Betelgeuze

Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:23 am

Wish List for Raspberry Pi Model 3:

- at least 2 UART ports
- at least 2 i2c ports
- at least 8 extra ADC ports (at least by 10 bit resolution)
- hardware graphics accelerator, perhaps by support of external USB-to-VGA or HDMI (?) graphic adapters
#define S sqrt(t+2*i*i)<2
#define F(a,b) for(a=0;a<b;++a)
float x,y,r,i,s,j,t,n;int main(){F(y,64){F(x,99){r=i=t=0;s=x/33-2;j=y/32-1;F(n,50&S){t=r*r-i*i;i=2*r*i+j;r=t+s;}if(S){PointOut(x,y);}}}for(;;);}

ame
Posts: 3172
Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:21 am
Location: New Zealand

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:34 am

...and a pony!

fruitoftheloom
Posts: 23337
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:40 pm
Location: Delightful Dorset

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:45 am

davenull wrote:Wish List for Raspberry Pi Model 3:

- at least 2 UART ports
- at least 2 i2c ports
- at least 8 extra ADC ports (at least by 10 bit resolution)
- hardware graphics accelerator, perhaps by support of external USB-to-VGA or HDMI (?) graphic adapters
Not required, there are other boards which will likely fit your requirements :shock:
Rather than negativity think outside the box !
RPi 4B 4GB (SSD Boot)..
Asus ChromeBox 3 Celeron is my other computer...

User avatar
Jednorozec
Posts: 809
Joined: Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:17 pm
Location: Deposit, NY

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:46 am

Free in cereal boxes.
The most important leg of a three legged stool is the one that's missing.
It's called thinking. Why don't you try it sometime?

davenull
Posts: 1159
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:22 am
Location: a small planet close to Betelgeuze

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:37 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote: Not required, there are other boards which will likely fit your requirements :shock:
and airplanes? who needs airplanes? Not required, they can't fly anyway as they are heavier than air... ;)

(a wishlist is a wishlist is a wishlist ... 8-) )
#define S sqrt(t+2*i*i)<2
#define F(a,b) for(a=0;a<b;++a)
float x,y,r,i,s,j,t,n;int main(){F(y,64){F(x,99){r=i=t=0;s=x/33-2;j=y/32-1;F(n,50&S){t=r*r-i*i;i=2*r*i+j;r=t+s;}if(S){PointOut(x,y);}}}for(;;);}

ame
Posts: 3172
Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:21 am
Location: New Zealand

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:40 pm

davenull wrote:
fruitoftheloom wrote: Not required, there are other boards which will likely fit your requirements :shock:
and airplanes? who needs airplanes? Not required, they can't fly anyway as they are heavier than air... ;)

(a wishlist is a wishlist is a wishlist ... 8-) )
You must be new here.

davenull
Posts: 1159
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:22 am
Location: a small planet close to Betelgeuze

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:48 pm

yes indeed, why?

(if one thinks the Raspberry is fine as-it-is ... why didn't he/she stay with the Raspberry A ? )
#define S sqrt(t+2*i*i)<2
#define F(a,b) for(a=0;a<b;++a)
float x,y,r,i,s,j,t,n;int main(){F(y,64){F(x,99){r=i=t=0;s=x/33-2;j=y/32-1;F(n,50&S){t=r*r-i*i;i=2*r*i+j;r=t+s;}if(S){PointOut(x,y);}}}for(;;);}

ame
Posts: 3172
Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:21 am
Location: New Zealand

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:04 pm

davenull wrote:yes indeed, why?

(if one thinks the Raspberry is fine as-it-is ... why didn't he/she stay with the Raspberry A ? )
Just pulling your chain. This is the first 'wish list' I have seen for a while.

Some time ago, new threads would regularly appear stating what was missing on the Pi, and how great it would be if only it had X, Y and/or Z.

Then the B+ came out and they quietened down for a while.

Then there were a few more murmurs of dissent, until... the Pi 2 came out. And there was much rejoicing.

Unfortunately, asking for more is a pointless exercise, since the Pi designers are actually quite good, and try to make the best design at the chosen price point as they can. We can speculate on the design decisions that were made, but ultimately most people recognise why things are as they are. There are also some things that are obviously not possible with the current SoC, so asking for them is pointless as it's either impossible, or not possible without extra (costly) hardware (and even something costing a penny is expensive).

Finally, for the world at large, the appearance of the Pi 2B was a complete surprise (it was a rather well-kept secret), so even if we could influence the design of the Pi we could never know when the features we wanted would appear.

But I still want a pony.

davenull
Posts: 1159
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:22 am
Location: a small planet close to Betelgeuze

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:08 pm

I don't want a pony, if any, then an Arabian Stallion :mrgreen:
#define S sqrt(t+2*i*i)<2
#define F(a,b) for(a=0;a<b;++a)
float x,y,r,i,s,j,t,n;int main(){F(y,64){F(x,99){r=i=t=0;s=x/33-2;j=y/32-1;F(n,50&S){t=r*r-i*i;i=2*r*i+j;r=t+s;}if(S){PointOut(x,y);}}}for(;;);}

jdb
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Raspberry Pi Engineer & Forum Moderator
Posts: 2393
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:37 pm

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:13 pm

What's this? Oh, it must be that time again.
Rockets are loud.
https://astro-pi.org

davenull
Posts: 1159
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:22 am
Location: a small planet close to Betelgeuze

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:55 pm

as time goes by... :)
(better 2 times too early than 1 time too late ;) )
#define S sqrt(t+2*i*i)<2
#define F(a,b) for(a=0;a<b;++a)
float x,y,r,i,s,j,t,n;int main(){F(y,64){F(x,99){r=i=t=0;s=x/33-2;j=y/32-1;F(n,50&S){t=r*r-i*i;i=2*r*i+j;r=t+s;}if(S){PointOut(x,y);}}}for(;;);}

gordon77
Posts: 5036
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:12 pm

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:07 pm

Shouldn't we send all requests for new features etc to element14 now ?

Maybe with a large cheque ?

W. H. Heydt
Posts: 12648
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:36 pm
Location: Vallejo, CA (US)

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:20 pm

Don't forget to include a sandwich...and wheels so the Pi can deliver it.

davenull
Posts: 1159
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:22 am
Location: a small planet close to Betelgeuze

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:38 pm

done.

Image
Image
#define S sqrt(t+2*i*i)<2
#define F(a,b) for(a=0;a<b;++a)
float x,y,r,i,s,j,t,n;int main(){F(y,64){F(x,99){r=i=t=0;s=x/33-2;j=y/32-1;F(n,50&S){t=r*r-i*i;i=2*r*i+j;r=t+s;}if(S){PointOut(x,y);}}}for(;;);}

User avatar
kusti8
Posts: 3439
Joined: Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:29 pm
Location: USA

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:48 pm

davenull wrote:done.

Image
Image
I don't see any sandwhich........ 8-)
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary and those who don't.

W. H. Heydt
Posts: 12648
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:36 pm
Location: Vallejo, CA (US)

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:52 pm

davenull wrote:yes indeed, why?

(if one thinks the Raspberry is fine as-it-is ... why didn't he/she stay with the Raspberry A ? )
The Raspberry Pi *is* fine as it is...for the purposes to which it is suited. That doesn't mean that a future Pi can't be even better.

As for the Model A...got one you don't want? I'd be happy to take it off your hands as I don't have one.

davenull
Posts: 1159
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:22 am
Location: a small planet close to Betelgeuze

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:56 pm

yes the Raspi was good and is good at either time, but as time goes by, the improvements and enhancements proceed.
(no, I have no A type, I started with the B+ because A and B had faaaaaaar tooooooo feeeeew pins...)
(edit: the sandwich is inside or down under ;) )

Finally, the better one is the foe of the good one.
#define S sqrt(t+2*i*i)<2
#define F(a,b) for(a=0;a<b;++a)
float x,y,r,i,s,j,t,n;int main(){F(y,64){F(x,99){r=i=t=0;s=x/33-2;j=y/32-1;F(n,50&S){t=r*r-i*i;i=2*r*i+j;r=t+s;}if(S){PointOut(x,y);}}}for(;;);}

davenull
Posts: 1159
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:22 am
Location: a small planet close to Betelgeuze

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:55 pm

ps, extra digital and analog pins could be provided by an extra onboard AVR or even an ARM M3, quickly interfaced e.g., by highspeed-SPI or USB.
That reminds me of another model 3... or TRE...

now we are pleased to present to you...

Raspberry Pi TRE ! :ugeek:
#define S sqrt(t+2*i*i)<2
#define F(a,b) for(a=0;a<b;++a)
float x,y,r,i,s,j,t,n;int main(){F(y,64){F(x,99){r=i=t=0;s=x/33-2;j=y/32-1;F(n,50&S){t=r*r-i*i;i=2*r*i+j;r=t+s;}if(S){PointOut(x,y);}}}for(;;);}

W. H. Heydt
Posts: 12648
Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:36 pm
Location: Vallejo, CA (US)

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:34 pm

davenull wrote:yes the Raspi was good and is good at either time, but as time goes by, the improvements and enhancements proceed.
(no, I have no A type, I started with the B+ because A and B had faaaaaaar tooooooo feeeeew pins...)
(edit: the sandwich is inside or down under ;) )

Finally, the better one is the foe of the good one.
Just within the last couple of weeks, I replaced the Model B (so old it has polyfuses for the USB ports) that has served as my alarm clock for something over 3 years with a Pi2B with a HifiBerry DAC+ sound card. This was *not* done because the Model B couldn't do the job.

My wish list (with the exception of a mass storage device connector), more or less in order of preference is:
1. Higher clock speed (>= 1.5GHz)
2. More RAM (2+GB)
3. Upgraded GPU, capable of 4K at 30fps, or better
4. Independent Ethernet bus.
5. On chip RTC

Note that none of those items call for more pins (that can be done now with add on cards) or ADC (adding "more" would be starting from a base of...zero). All my items would require a new SoC, so I don't expect to see any of them for at least 2 years, and possibly not for 4. Still....I'd *love* to be surprised.

fruitoftheloom
Posts: 23337
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:40 pm
Location: Delightful Dorset

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:58 pm

My wish is to have no pathetically pathetic wish list posts
Rather than negativity think outside the box !
RPi 4B 4GB (SSD Boot)..
Asus ChromeBox 3 Celeron is my other computer...

User avatar
solar3000
Posts: 1051
Joined: Sat May 18, 2013 12:14 am

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:06 am

I can't wait for the Pi 4.
I hear there's a secret release of pi 5 and pi 5 turbo. They come with Orangutan-Glass 1.0
Antikythera

User avatar
DougieLawson
Posts: 39121
Joined: Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:19 pm
Location: A small cave in deepest darkest Basingstoke, UK
Contact: Website Twitter

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:24 am

fruitoftheloom wrote:My wish is to have no pathetically pathetic wish list posts
+1
These lists are pointless, they won't change the undisclosed plans that the RPF may or may not have for a RPi 2A, CM2 or RPi 3A or RPi 3B. They also won't change whether the Earth is flat or whether there's water on Mars.
Note: Any requirement to use a crystal ball or mind reading will result in me ignoring your question.

Criticising any questions is banned on this forum.

Any DMs sent on Twitter will be answered next month.
All non-medical doctors are on my foes list.

davenull
Posts: 1159
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:22 am
Location: a small planet close to Betelgeuze

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:01 am

isn't this the "official" Raspberry Pi forum?
So cannnot the (hardware) developers be expected to read what the consumers wish and what issues exist?
#define S sqrt(t+2*i*i)<2
#define F(a,b) for(a=0;a<b;++a)
float x,y,r,i,s,j,t,n;int main(){F(y,64){F(x,99){r=i=t=0;s=x/33-2;j=y/32-1;F(n,50&S){t=r*r-i*i;i=2*r*i+j;r=t+s;}if(S){PointOut(x,y);}}}for(;;);}

fruitoftheloom
Posts: 23337
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:40 pm
Location: Delightful Dorset

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:20 am

davenull wrote:isn't this the "official" Raspberry Pi forum?
So cannnot the (hardware) developers be expected to read what the consumers wish and what issues exist?
Having to keep bombarding the RPF with wish lists is insulting their intelligence, they know what is wished for, what is feasible, what issus have arisen.

That why it took 6 months for Jessie to be released, and EU has always stated "backward compatibility" as a pre-requisite :shock:


Though nice that after a week of joining the Forum you know better :(
Last edited by fruitoftheloom on Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:21 am, edited 1 time in total.
Rather than negativity think outside the box !
RPi 4B 4GB (SSD Boot)..
Asus ChromeBox 3 Celeron is my other computer...

User avatar
rpdom
Posts: 17173
Joined: Sun May 06, 2012 5:17 am
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK

Re: Wish list for Raspberry Pi Model 3

Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:21 am

davenull wrote:isn't this the "official" Raspberry Pi forum?
So cannnot the (hardware) developers be expected to read what the consumers wish and what issues exist?
It's been done to death.

The developers do listen to what people would like though. Hence the Pi B+, then the 2B. There are limits to what they can do within the target price range and their resources though.

One of the few things that might be reasonably possible that has been mentioned on this thread is an on board RTC. The others are unlikely for now, at least.

Also, I would like a pony too. It'll make a change from the usual christmas dinner ;)

Return to “General discussion”