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PI2 - Several Browsers, Issues and Crashes

Tue May 26, 2015 1:43 am

I have been using several browsers on Raspbian and I have encountered several reliability issues. I am not sure if things are getting better over time regarding reliability but definitely there seems to be a noticeable change for the past fews days.

1) Midori and Chromium will crash after a few sites are accessed
2) Sometimes midori will crash and cannot be restarted. However it shows on the task manager as running.
3) Both Iceweasel and Chromium will show incomplete page of the Yahoo Finance US. Midori is fine. Chrome and firefox on a PC show this page fine.
4) I leave my PI2 running 24/7. Using the PI2 after a few days ON, it will crash after a few access to web pages.
5) On one occasion I left the PI for 2 days and when I activated it, the CPU was stuck at 26% and at 58 degrees C.

I think the reliability issue is potentially linked the the browser issues. The reliability over time is a concern specially if I want to design a reliable, "no worry" autonomous system i.e. a security system for my home

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Re: PI2 - Several Browsers, Issues and Crashes

Tue May 26, 2015 4:34 am

pcote_pi wrote:I have been using several browsers on Raspbian and I have encountered several reliability issues. I am not sure if things are getting better over time regarding reliability but definitely there seems to be a noticeable change for the past fews days.

1) Midori and Chromium will crash after a few sites are accessed
2) Sometimes midori will crash and cannot be restarted. However it shows on the task manager as running.
3) Both Iceweasel and Chromium will show incomplete page of the Yahoo Finance US. Midori is fine. Chrome and firefox on a PC show this page fine.
4) I leave my PI2 running 24/7. Using the PI2 after a few days ON, it will crash after a few access to web pages.
5) On one occasion I left the PI for 2 days and when I activated it, the CPU was stuck at 26% and at 58 degrees C.

I think the reliability issue is potentially linked the the browser issues. The reliability over time is a concern specially if I want to design a reliable, "no worry" autonomous system i.e. a security system for my home
Raspbian Operating System has 2 other Browsers:

Epiphany (default)
kweb minimal kiosk browser viewtopic.php?t=40860

In Raspbian both Midori and Chromium are older versions and not a good representation when testing ;)

IceWeasel is equivelent to Firefox 31ESR which hopefully will be updated to 38ESR which was released this month.....
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Re: PI2 - Several Browsers, Issues and Crashes

Tue May 26, 2015 5:48 am

This looks more like a general stability problem to me or a wrong kind of usage. Don't open too many web pages at the same time. All browsers are memory hungry and the RPi will easily run out of memory.

The old browser engines almost never crash (Midori/kweb, Iceweasel, Chromium). In fact, I haven't seen a crash in years,
The new, accelerated webkit3 engine (epiphany, kweb3) still has some issues and may crash sometimes.
Minimal Kiosk Browser (kweb)
Slim, fast webkit browser with support for audio+video+playlists+youtube+pdf+download
Optional fullscreen kiosk mode and command interface for embedded applications
Includes omxplayerGUI, an X front end for omxplayer

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Re: PI2 - Several Browsers, Issues and Crashes

Tue May 26, 2015 12:13 pm

I only use one page at a time. I am using the latest updates without errors.

I have used Epiphany in the past and ran to similar problems. So I am running out of browsers to use.

I suspect it could be linked to the WIFI interface sw and a buffer issue. Could be.

Since the depth of the problem seems to vary from Raspbian update to another, I suspect it could be Raspbian. Don't know.

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Re: PI2 - Several Browsers, Issues and Crashes

Tue May 26, 2015 12:16 pm

could be a power issue.

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Re: PI2 - Several Browsers, Issues and Crashes

Tue May 26, 2015 9:41 pm

Allo, I have used several power units. Two with 2.5 amps and one with 3 amps supply. No change.

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Re: PI2 - Several Browsers, Issues and Crashes

Wed May 27, 2015 1:26 am

I have update the PI2 to the latest software.

I started Epiphany and went to Youtube. I was unable to play a video. I see the the play logo (right looking triangle) in the center of the video ( total black ). The logo is switching back and forth from "play logo white on black" to "play logo white on Red". No playback possible on several trials.

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Re: PI2 - Several Browsers, Issues and Crashes

Thu May 26, 2016 10:44 am

We have deployed Midori browser 0.4.3 in "2016-02-09-raspbian-jessie.img" on RPi 2B, running kiosk mode against a single URL that refreshes every 60 seconds. We've seen non-stop operation for 30-40 days duration, CPU utilisation less than 10% and RAM utilisation around 20% (no swapping is happening).

The latter seems to grow, but at a very slow rate. With about 8 kiosks running, so far we've had 2 Midori browser crashes that I could not explain. So I had to create a cron bash script that checks for the presence of the midori process every 5 minutes, rebooting RPi if it ain't there anymore.

Overall I am quite happy with this setup.

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Re: PI2 - Several Browsers, Issues and Crashes

Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:21 am

Very interesting, at least for me. Does anybody else have similar stability issues with browsers. pi-dabbler, have you tested this on same instance of OS, I mean have you tried it on the fresh Raspbian Jessie "burned" on SD Card?

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Re: PI2 - Several Browsers, Issues and Crashes

Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:45 am

rganeyev.work wrote:Very interesting, at least for me. Does anybody else have similar stability issues with browsers. pi-dabbler, have you tested this on same instance of OS, I mean have you tried it on the fresh Raspbian Jessie "burned" on SD Card?
Since nearly a year ago Raspbian Jessie with Pixel DE now includes chromium-browser (currently v56), the kernel / firmware has been updated, and a new RPi 2B v1.2 has been released. So yes an awful lot has changed in nearly a year..
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