timxjr1300
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Moving USB HDD from an old box to pi - permissions SAMBA etc

Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:15 pm

I have been searching the forums for a while and can't seem to find a post to match this interesting situation.

I have an old 2TB USB HDD which I have moved to the pi, edited fstab etc. and it all works fine.
Minidlna is doing its thing all is good

except

Minidlna cannot write to the USB HDD (logfiles, db etc.) and although I can see files etc. from a laptop via SAMBA, I cannot set permissions (webmin) other than free open access to any user.
Trying to setup a user 'tim' with access to specific files/folders via webmin with write access just gives 'Permission Denied' on the 'map drive' windows dialogue, in fact doing almost anything other than wide open configurations gives 'Permission Denied'

So the question is this, are there default permissions, owners and groups for USB HDD files that will allow me to achieve a connection, would these have been the permissions, owners and groups set up if I had partitioned and formatted the disk from the pi?

Formatting the disk is not an option by the way.

Does SAMBA only allow access to known pi users?
I want to allow access to several people all with their own 'workspace' on the disk and of course unlimited access to 'media' so do I have to set up a pi account for each one even though they won't ever be logging on?

There are several instructables and tutorials out there but the ones I have found all seem to start by formatting the USB HDD which is not an option in this case, I naively thought I could just plug in the USB and away we go.

By the way, the file permissions seem to be 755 in most cases and owned by root:root

I thought that setting permissions to 777 was very bad as it allows access by everyone to everything.

Help needed and much appreciated

tpylkko
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Re: Moving USB HDD from an old box to pi - permissions SAMBA

Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:11 pm

what did you do in the conf file?

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Re: Moving USB HDD from an old box to pi - permissions SAMBA

Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:22 pm

tpylkko wrote:what did you do in the conf file?
Which conf file?


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Re: Moving USB HDD from an old box to pi - permissions SAMBA

Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:43 am

#
#======================= Global Settings =======================

[global]
log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
passwd chat = *Enter\snew\s*\spassword:* %n\n *Retype\snew\s*\spassword:* %n\n *password\supdated\ssuccessfully* .
obey pam restrictions = yes
map to guest = bad user
encrypt passwords = true
passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
passdb backend = tdbsam
wins support = true
dns proxy = no
server string = %h server
unix password sync = yes
workgroup = WORKGROUP
os level = 20
syslog = 0
usershare allow guests = yes
panic action = /usr/share/samba/panic-action %d
max log size = 1000
pam password change = yes

## Browsing/Identification ###

# Change this to the workgroup/NT-domain name your Samba server will part of

# server string is the equivalent of the NT Description field

# Windows Internet Name Serving Support Section:
# WINS Support - Tells the NMBD component of Samba to enable its WINS Server
# wins support = no

# WINS Server - Tells the NMBD components of Samba to be a WINS Client
# Note: Samba can be either a WINS Server, or a WINS Client, but NOT both
; wins server = w.x.y.z

# This will prevent nmbd to search for NetBIOS names through DNS.

# What naming service and in what order should we use to resolve host names
# to IP addresses
; name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast

#### Networking ####

# The specific set of interfaces / networks to bind to
# This can be either the interface name or an IP address/netmask;
# interface names are normally preferred
; interfaces = 127.0.0.0/8 eth0

# Only bind to the named interfaces and/or networks; you must use the
# 'interfaces' option above to use this.
# It is recommended that you enable this feature if your Samba machine is
# not protected by a firewall or is a firewall itself. However, this
# option cannot handle dynamic or non-broadcast interfaces correctly.
; bind interfaces only = yes



#### Debugging/Accounting ####

# This tells Samba to use a separate log file for each machine
# that connects

# Cap the size of the individual log files (in KiB).

# If you want Samba to only log through syslog then set the following
# parameter to 'yes'.
# syslog only = no

# We want Samba to log a minimum amount of information to syslog. Everything
# should go to /var/log/samba/log.{smbd,nmbd} instead. If you want to log
# through syslog you should set the following parameter to something higher.

# Do something sensible when Samba crashes: mail the admin a backtrace


####### Authentication #######

# "security = user" is always a good idea. This will require a Unix account
# in this server for every user accessing the server. See
# /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/Samba3-HOWTO/ServerType.html
# in the samba-doc package for details.
# security = user

# You may wish to use password encryption. See the section on
# 'encrypt passwords' in the smb.conf(5) manpage before enabling.

# If you are using encrypted passwords, Samba will need to know what
# password database type you are using.


# This boolean parameter controls whether Samba attempts to sync the Unix
# password with the SMB password when the encrypted SMB password in the
# passdb is changed.

# For Unix password sync to work on a Debian GNU/Linux system, the following
# parameters must be set (thanks to Ian Kahan <<kahan@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> for
# sending the correct chat script for the passwd program in Debian Sarge).

# This boolean controls whether PAM will be used for password changes
# when requested by an SMB client instead of the program listed in
# 'passwd program'. The default is 'no'.

# This option controls how unsuccessful authentication attempts are mapped
# to anonymous connections

########## Domains ###########

# Is this machine able to authenticate users. Both PDC and BDC
# must have this setting enabled. If you are the BDC you must
# change the 'domain master' setting to no
#
; domain logons = yes
#
# The following setting only takes effect if 'domain logons' is set
# It specifies the location of the user's profile directory
# from the client point of view)
# The following required a [profiles] share to be setup on the
# samba server (see below)
; logon path = \\%N\profiles\%U
# Another common choice is storing the profile in the user's home directory
# (this is Samba's default)
# logon path = \\%N\%U\profile

# The following setting only takes effect if 'domain logons' is set
# It specifies the location of a user's home directory (from the client
# point of view)
; logon drive = H:
# logon home = \\%N\%U

# The following setting only takes effect if 'domain logons' is set
# It specifies the script to run during logon. The script must be stored
# in the [netlogon] share
# NOTE: Must be store in 'DOS' file format convention
; logon script = logon.cmd

# This allows Unix users to be created on the domain controller via the SAMR
# RPC pipe. The example command creates a user account with a disabled Unix
# password; please adapt to your needs
; add user script = /usr/sbin/adduser --quiet --disabled-password --gecos "" %u

# This allows machine accounts to be created on the domain controller via the
# SAMR RPC pipe.
# The following assumes a "machines" group exists on the system
; add machine script = /usr/sbin/useradd -g machines -c "%u machine account" -d /var/lib/samba -s /bin/false %u

# This allows Unix groups to be created on the domain controller via the SAMR
# RPC pipe.
; add group script = /usr/sbin/addgroup --force-badname %g

########## Printing ##########

# If you want to automatically load your printer list rather
# than setting them up individually then you'll need this
# load printers = yes

# lpr(ng) printing. You may wish to override the location of the
# printcap file
; printing = bsd
; printcap name = /etc/printcap

# CUPS printing. See also the cupsaddsmb(8) manpage in the
# cupsys-client package.
; printing = cups
; printcap name = cups

############ Misc ############

# Using the following line enables you to customise your configuration
# on a per machine basis. The %m gets replaced with the netbios name
# of the machine that is connecting
; include = /home/samba/etc/smb.conf.%m

# Most people will find that this option gives better performance.
# See smb.conf(5) and /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/Samba3-HOWTO/speed.html
# for details
# You may want to add the following on a Linux system:
# SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
# socket options = TCP_NODELAY

# The following parameter is useful only if you have the linpopup package
# installed. The samba maintainer and the linpopup maintainer are
# working to ease installation and configuration of linpopup and samba.
; message command = /bin/sh -c '/usr/bin/linpopup "%f" "%m" %s; rm %s' &

# Domain Master specifies Samba to be the Domain Master Browser. If this
# machine will be configured as a BDC (a secondary logon server), you
# must set this to 'no'; otherwise, the default behavior is recommended.
# domain master = auto

# Some defaults for winbind (make sure you're not using the ranges
# for something else.)
; idmap uid = 10000-20000
; idmap gid = 10000-20000
; template shell = /bin/bash

# The following was the default behaviour in sarge,
# but samba upstream reverted the default because it might induce
# performance issues in large organizations.
# See Debian bug #368251 for some of the consequences of *not*
# having this setting and smb.conf(5) for details.
; winbind enum groups = yes
; winbind enum users = yes

# Setup usershare options to enable non-root users to share folders
# with the net usershare command.

# Maximum number of usershare. 0 (default) means that usershare is disabled.
; usershare max shares = 100

# Allow users who've been granted usershare privileges to create
# public shares, not just authenticated ones

#======================= Share Definitions =======================

[homes]
comment = Home Directories
browseable = no

# By default, the home directories are exported read-only. Change the
# next parameter to 'no' if you want to be able to write to them.
read only = yes

# File creation mask is set to 0700 for security reasons. If you want to
# create files with group=rw permissions, set next parameter to 0775.
create mask = 0700

# Directory creation mask is set to 0700 for security reasons. If you want to
# create dirs. with group=rw permissions, set next parameter to 0775.
directory mask = 0700

# By default, \\server\username shares can be connected to by anyone
# with access to the samba server.
# The following parameter makes sure that only "username" can connect
# to \\server\username
# This might need tweaking when using external authentication schemes
valid users = %S

# Un-comment the following and create the netlogon directory for Domain Logons
# (you need to configure Samba to act as a domain controller too.)
;[netlogon]
; comment = Network Logon Service
; path = /home/samba/netlogon
; guest ok = yes
; read only = yes

# Un-comment the following and create the profiles directory to store
# users profiles (see the "logon path" option above)
# (you need to configure Samba to act as a domain controller too.)
# The path below should be writable by all users so that their
# profile directory may be created the first time they log on
;[profiles]
; comment = Users profiles
; path = /home/samba/profiles
; guest ok = no
; browseable = no
; create mask = 0600
; directory mask = 0700

[printers]
comment = All Printers
browseable = no
path = /var/spool/samba
printable = yes
guest ok = no
read only = yes
create mask = 0700

# Windows clients look for this share name as a source of downloadable
# printer drivers
[print$]
comment = Printer Drivers
path = /var/lib/samba/printers
browseable = yes
read only = yes
guest ok = no
# Uncomment to allow remote administration of Windows print drivers.
# You may need to replace 'lpadmin' with the name of the group your
# admin users are members of.
# Please note that you also need to set appropriate Unix permissions
# to the drivers directory for these users to have write rights in it
; write list = root, @lpadmin

# A sample share for sharing your CD-ROM with others.
;[cdrom]
; comment = Samba server's CD-ROM
; read only = yes
; locking = no
; path = /cdrom
; guest ok = yes

# The next two parameters show how to auto-mount a CD-ROM when the
# cdrom share is accesed. For this to work /etc/fstab must contain
# an entry like this:
#
# /dev/scd0 /cdrom iso9660 defaults,noauto,ro,user 0 0
#
# The CD-ROM gets unmounted automatically after the connection to the
#
# If you don't want to use auto-mounting/unmounting make sure the CD
# is mounted on /cdrom
#
; preexec = /bin/mount /cdrom
; postexec = /bin/umount /cdrom


[wholedisk]
writeable = yes
public = yes
path = /mnt/data

[timtest]
path = /mnt/data/Tim


When I the 'timtest' share via webmin and associate the user 'tim', I have to log on to the raspberry pi from the windows file explorer before I see the shares, this works but then I have to log onto the pi when I try t use the 'timtest' share and it fails.

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Re: Moving USB HDD from an old box to pi - permissions SAMBA

Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:44 pm

[timtest]
path = /mnt/data/Tim
Is your path Tim or tim? That's 2 different people.....

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 button. You can edit your previous post and do that....
Last edited by klricks on Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Moving USB HDD from an old box to pi - permissions SAMBA

Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:49 pm

The path is Tim

I'm wondering...

Do you have to have a pi user for every Windows user so is the Windows authentication system tied to the samba/pi authentication system or can you simply just share a folder on the nas with anyone who knows the password for that shsre

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Re: Moving USB HDD from an old box to pi - permissions SAMBA

Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:01 pm

Create a new user (eg. dougie) and a /home/dougie (it's normal to use lower case for names in Unix).

Add this stuff to your samba conf.

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[homes]
        comment = Home Directories
        valid users = %S
        read only = No
        create mask = 0644
        oplocks = no
        blocking locks = no
        strict locking = no
        locking = no
Add a samba userid with
smbpasswd -a dougie

Then I can access the share with
net use s: \\192.168.3.14\homes /user:dougie
from a command window or using the Win8 file explorer GUI.
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timxjr1300
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Re: Moving USB HDD from an old box to pi - permissions SAMBA

Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:03 pm

It seems after much experimenting that the 'fix' I was after in order to be able to allow users access to specific folders and controlling this via 'webmin' is really simple but t also seems that there is one step missing from the tutorials I have been through.

A couple of simple steps.
There is no direct authentication level link between windows users and Pi users
in webmin under 'Windows Networking' ensure that the security is set to 'user level'.

Ensure that you convert linux users to samba users (samba can't seem to pick up users by itself)

Ensure that when creating a share you limit access to specific users.

Done!

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Re: Moving USB HDD from an old box to pi - permissions SAMBA

Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:45 am

yes, in order to use samba sharíng you need to setup up samba.

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