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How to install wine on RPI Debian Wheezy

Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:02 pm

Hello, I don't know how to install Wine on rpi, i tried with apt-get install wine and I downloaded package from here: http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ and I dont know how can I install it on rpi. :oops:

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Re: How to install wine on RPI Debian Wheezy

Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:17 pm

WINE = Wine Is Not an Emulator.

Translated it means that WINE does not translate Intel CPU instructions to ARM instructions and so it can only run on Intel (x86) based CPUs. WINE will never run on RPI.

But someone will probably later tell you that there is a theoretical way of running a really slow version of Windows 95 in qemu or something.

Enter "Wine" into the search box in the top right corner if you are impatient.

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Re: How to install wine on RPI Debian Wheezy

Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:21 pm

So I can't install windows application on rpi? :| :(

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Re: How to install wine on RPI Debian Wheezy

Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:24 pm

kaja wrote:So I can't install windows application on rpi? :| :(
quick answer
NO
longer answer
for all intents a purposes no , you can get away with a few things , but most are not going to work - there are also some packages that wil wont on both windows and linux natively you'll be able to find out what when you download them ....
some-things can be persuaded to work at a much slower rate
but in general no
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Re: How to install wine on RPI Debian Wheezy

Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:24 pm

Thats right, you can't.
It has a Linux operating system, you install Linux software.

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Re: How to install wine on RPI Debian Wheezy

Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:25 pm

WINE IS NOT AN EMULATOR.

It's a run-time library that simulates Windows function calls with X86/X86_64 code specially written for Linux. You can't run it on a Raspberry Pi because the RPi has an ARM processor.

So unless you're already running a working X86 emulator installing wine gains you precisely nothing.
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Re: How to install wine on RPI Debian Wheezy

Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:00 pm

kaja wrote:So I can't install windows application on rpi? :| :(
The Raspberry Pi is hardware and will need an Operation System installed to install any applications/software.

The are various Linux OSes available as well as RiscOS, but unfortunately no versions of Windows available.

It may be feasible to run Windows 3.1/3.11 inside DOSBOX but that is about as good as it gets ;)
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Re: How to install wine on RPI Debian Wheezy

Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:12 pm

One can write Windows programs and compile them on Linux against libwine.

I did that years ago with a simple Win32 style application, just for fun, it worked nicely.

I wonder if that can be done on the ARM architecture as well? It's a sick and twisted thing to want to do, but just for giggles.

This is probably not what anybody want's to know though :)
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Re: How to install wine on RPI Debian Wheezy

Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:15 pm

kaja wrote:So I can't install windows application on rpi? :| :(
No, but there may be a Linux program that does the same thing as your windows app - use Google to find out.
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Re: How to install wine on RPI Debian Wheezy

Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:43 pm

ah bad :cry: thank you anyway guys ;)

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Re: How to install wine on RPI Debian Wheezy

Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:48 pm

No, but there may be a Linux program that does the same thing as your windows app - use Google to find out.
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People say this a lot, but I wonder how true it is.

Let's figure that there are 3 basic reasons why you might want to run Windows stuff (on whatever platform you happen to be running on at the time - for the sake of this forum, that means on the R Pi):
  1. Standard, "normal" productivity software (I.e., MS Office, etc)
  2. Just because you are comfortable and familiar with Windows - sort of the "Programmers like what they know" principle. Also, Visual Studio fits in this category - it doesn't have that much to recommend it other than that everybody uses it.
  3. Some obscure Windows app that:
    1. Nobody on these support boards will have ever heard of, so there's really no point in mentioning it by name. For the record, this is the category that my Windows interest fits in - so whenever anyone asks me "What app do you want to run on the Pi?", I just roll my eyes.
    2. It simply will never be ported to Linux. It is of great interest to me, of course, but the market is just not wide enough for it to make any sense for the producer to do a port.
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In 2) and 3), of course, it'll never be the same.
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Re: How to install wine on RPI Debian Wheezy

Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:57 pm

Luckily alternatives to things like Word and Excel and Outlook for Unix/Linux were never "good enough" for wide scale adoption. Linux never made to it's "year of the desktop". I think this is good.

The world has moved on. The desktop is almost obsolete.

Word processors were all about printing documents on paper with that spiffy laser printer. Who does that any more? No, now we all write on blogs and eBooks and whatever .

Outlook was all about email and such. Who does that any more? Everyone is communicating via Facebook, Twitter, github, Slack, and God knows what else-

And so on and so on.

And guess what? All these new ways of working are running on Linux! From your cloud services to your Android apps.

The desktop is dead. Long live the desktop!
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