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Unix for the Raspberry Pi

Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:17 am

Will apple make a mac os for the raspberry pi? Are there any unix os for the raspberry pi?

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Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:00 am

mathboy4life wrote:Will apple make a mac os for the raspberry pi? Are there any unix os for the raspberry pi?
This question is loaded... all gnu+linux systems (including Raspbian) are unix-like; although, remember that GNU is a recursive acronym which means GNU is NOT UNIX... but I digress.

mac OSX is based on FreeBSD which is technically not just unix-like, it gets to call itself UNIX. In any case, for practical purposes, there is not a shred of difference really, between FreeBSD and gnu+linux (nor mac OSX) from a functional level from the user's perspective... which is why most of us are willing to use the Apple appliance even though we are firm believers in free software. Even though Apple makes a 'walled garden', so to speak, and even though it is proprietary, the are not 'evil' about how they implement it, nor are they controlling about how I may use it... (see?)

Apple has open sourced their primary development platform (Swift) and made it available for gnu+linux systems at no charge. Beyond that; I can do anything I want with my iMac... fully programable... and fully customizable... the only thing I can't do with it (and I don't really want to ) is compile the kernel.


The Raspberry PI is for all intents and purposes a unix-like system, based on debian gnu+linux (if you're using Raspbian, of course).

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Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:52 am

mathboy4life wrote:Are there any unix os for the raspberry pi?
This is a joke, right?

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Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:20 pm

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mathboy4life wrote:Are there any unix os for the raspberry pi?
This is a joke, right?
If it isn't it's an exceedingly naïve and banal question.
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Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:40 pm

You could run Unix Version 7 inside the SIMH emulator on the Raspberry Pi.
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Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:48 pm

want your RPi to look like a Mac? (or at least the desktop)... why not try:

http://www.glx-dock.org/

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Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:25 pm

It was a very serious question, so serious that if it didn't get answered the internet would have been shutdown. :shock:

But in my opinion I believe there's not much difference from Linux and UNIX

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mathboy4life wrote:It was a very serious question, so serious that if it didn't get answered the internet would have been shutdown. :shock:

But in my opinion I believe there's not much difference from Linux and UNIX
Stop please, you're killing me :lol:

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I have come to the conclusion that Unix never existed.

Unix is a mythic beast fashioned from the primordial chaos of random bits by the ancient Gods of legend, Thompson, Ritchie, Pike and others whose names are lost to the mists of time. The myth of Unix was almost forgotten until revived by the great prophet Stallman. Despite his insistence that his GNU is not Linux, we know the spirit on Unix lives on through the holy Stallman. Almost eradicated by the evil empire to the west Unix was once again revived by the messiah Torvalds who breathed life into it's kernel and set it free to multiply and inhabit the universe. Bringing salvation to all those that believe.

How did I come to this startling revelation?

It came to me in a fever, I have terrible flu just now, Saint Babbage spoke to me.

If that is not evidence enough for you consider the similarity between "Unix" and "Unicorn". Clearly both mythical beasts. I mean, have you ever seen a Unicorn or a Unix?
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Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:58 pm

Heater wrote:
If that is not evidence enough for you consider the similarity between "Unix" and "Unicorn". Clearly both mythical beasts. I mean, have you ever seen a Unicorn or a Unix?
I believe I saw a Macbook pro and i believe it's Unix certified with mac os x? :?
I don't know if i am stuck in time but i believe wikipedia has resurrected all the Unix creators ?
I must be on the wrong side of the internet again? :o

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Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:14 pm

Heater wrote:[...] have you ever seen a Unicorn or a Unix?
Yes, they frequently advertise over here. See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unox

Here's some too:
http://www.unox.com/

Oh, wait, Unix :P

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Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:36 pm

Heater wrote: Almost eradicated by the evil empire to the west Unix was once again revived by
I didn't really look that closely at a map, but is it really true that Redmond is more west than Berkeley? I'll grant you Bell Labs and MIT aren't but then why do they claim that the FFTW is in the west?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFTW
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The Fastest Fourier Transform in the West (FFTW) is a software library for computing discrete Fourier transforms (DFTs) developed by Matteo Frigo and Steven G. Johnson at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
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Heater wrote:I mean, have you ever seen a Unicorn or a Unix?
Iv seen both .... but ! never in the same room :shock:
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Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:00 pm

You may have a point. They are all so far west of civilization that I cannot be sure. Far after that point on my map of the world where it says "Here be monsters".
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Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:22 pm

Heater wrote:.If that is not evidence enough for you consider the similarity between "Unix" and "Unicorn". Clearly both mythical beasts. I mean, have you ever seen a Unicorn or a Unix?
Perhaps this helps: the mythical operating system was called multics; whereas multicorns are real animals more commonly known as goats. Unfortunately, the relationship between Linux and the mysterious Linocorn is still . . . mysterious.

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buja wrote:
mathboy4life wrote:Are there any unix os for the raspberry pi?
This is a joke, right?
Please consider that not everyone has the same level of knowledge, and that this forum is frequented by people of all ages and knowledge levels, and everyone deserves to be treated with respect.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:38 am

patrikg,
A picture says more than x words.
Might do. If it were big enough to read :)

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Heater wrote: .. the great profit ....
Even the US with its corruption of the English language has not changed 'prophet' to 'profit'. :)

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Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:26 pm

Or 'holy' to 'holly', as far as I know.

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Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:33 pm

It's a fair cop. An honest mistake coming from my flu addled mind. It was Bill who was the great profit and Richard who is the prophet.

Did you know, however, that there is no correct spelling in the English language? Neither is there a correct grammar or semantics. I have yet to see any such formal language standard specification documents for English. There is no standards body. Unlike, say, Ada, Javascript, C/C++ etc.

As such we can assume that whatever the English peoples say or write is the English language. I am English, therefore I get to define, in part, the English language.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone. "It means just what I choose it to mean - neither more or less."

Although, in this case I'm with you, "prophet" not "profit".
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Douglas6,
Or 'holy' to 'holly', as far as I know.
Grief, now there are two of you on my case.

You are, of course, wholly correct. Or would you prefer "wholely".
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Heater wrote:Douglas6,
Or 'holy' to 'holly', as far as I know.
Grief, now there are two of you on my case.

You are, of course, wholly correct. Or would you prefer "wholely".
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