I was just saying I read Niven before I read Heinilen, Sheeesh!
Plus Niven may have got it from popular culture you could go ask Larry Niven he is still around. To go ask Heinilen could be an issue he died 1988 so I gues we cannot realy ask him unless Ouija Board anyone?
Its a pointless argument I am begining to wish I hadn't bothered with the citation, but thats a spin-off from a University Education for you you have to cite someone or its plagiarism.
Noob is not derogatory the noob is just the lower end of the noob--geek spectrum being a noob is just your first step towards being an uber-geek
If you find a solution please post it in the wiki the forum dies too quick