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Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:43 am

Hello all, This is my first post, I have a TON to learn. I am brand new to computers and programming. My question is, what is the easiest/best way to manage the single USB port. I have a wireless keyboard/mouse.. and I have a usb wifi adapter.. but I only have one usb port on the Zero... so what is the solution? thanks

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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:10 am

Agentwright wrote:Hello all, This is my first post, I have a TON to learn. I am brand new to computers and programming. My question is, what is the easiest/best way to manage the single USB port. I have a wireless keyboard/mouse.. and I have a usb wifi adapter.. but I only have one usb port on the Zero... so what is the solution? thanks
Mains Powered USB 2.0 Hub ;)
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Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:38 am

Most simple hubs will do. Powered is nice, I have found it to be overkill on a Zero.
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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:40 am

hansotten wrote:Most simple hubs will do. Powered is nice, I have found it to be overkill on a Zero.
Mains Powered Hub is good as negates the need for a PSU, but each to their own :D
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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:43 am

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hansotten wrote:Most simple hubs will do. Powered is nice, I have found it to be overkill on a Zero.
Mains Powered Hub is good as negates the need for a PSU, but each to their own :D
^ this
a mains powered USB HUB [with inbuilt Ethernet for added usefulness] one plug = extra ports and power
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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:03 am

These hubs work nicely with Pi Zero and cost less than the Pi.

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00O ... ge_o00_s00

Micro USB to plug into Pi.
Micro USB socket for power in.
3 USB A sockets for mouse, keyboard & WiFi (or whatever)

You can use the micro USB socket for another USB device if put power into the Pi and have the right connector / adaptor. It is a four port hub.
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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:22 am

RaTTuS wrote:
fruitoftheloom wrote:
hansotten wrote:Most simple hubs will do. Powered is nice, I have found it to be overkill on a Zero.
Mains Powered Hub is good as negates the need for a PSU, but each to their own :D
^ this
a mains powered USB HUB [with inbuilt Ethernet for added usefulness] one plug = extra ports and power
Unfortunately many Ethernet use the DCM9601 or ASIX AX88772 Chipset which appear from various posts to be troublesome..
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Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:28 am

fruitoftheloom wrote: Unfortunately many Ethernet use the DCM9601 or ASIX78xx Chipset which appear from various posts to be troublesome..
I'm pretty sure that's been my problem. I bought a USB hub + ethernet port from eBay and it causes a kernel panic when you try use the internet.
I hadn't seen any posts about other people having the same problem. Do you have a link?
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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:35 am

scotty101 wrote:
fruitoftheloom wrote: Unfortunately many Ethernet use the DCM9601 or ASIX78xx Chipset which appear from various posts to be troublesome..
I'm pretty sure that's been my problem. I bought a USB hub + ethernet port from eBay and it causes a kernel panic when you try use the internet.
I hadn't seen any posts about other people having the same problem. Do you have a link?
Tempted to use LMGTFY... ;)

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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:40 am

scotty101 wrote:
fruitoftheloom wrote: Unfortunately many Ethernet use the DCM9601 or ASIX78xx Chipset which appear from various posts to be troublesome..
I'm pretty sure that's been my problem. I bought a USB hub + ethernet port from eBay and it causes a kernel panic when you try use the internet.
I hadn't seen any posts about other people having the same problem. Do you have a link?
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Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:47 am

fruitoftheloom wrote: Unfortunately many Ethernet use the DCM9601 or ASIX78xx Chipset which appear from various posts to be troublesome..
aha yes - I do have a DCM9601 that seems to crash the RPi
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Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:27 am

Aside from Dirk's LMGTFY comment, thanks all.
I had searched for it but obviously not the right search terms.
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Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:00 am

scotty101 wrote:Aside from Dirk's LMGTFY comment, thanks all.
I had searched for it but obviously not the right search terms.
The Realtek RTL8152 Chipset seems a good choice, it is used by Google ChromeCast "Ethernet over USB" Adaptor:

Not bad price for quality £12.00: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00WR6A57S
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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:43 pm

Some good advice there, but remember the OP only asked about connecting his existing WiFi adaptor and Keyboard/mouse.

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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:00 pm

PiGraham wrote:These hubs work nicely with Pi Zero and cost less than the Pi.

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00O ... ge_o00_s00

Micro USB to plug into Pi.
Micro USB socket for power in.
3 USB A sockets for mouse, keyboard & WiFi (or whatever)

You can use the micro USB socket for another USB device if put power into the Pi and have the right connector / adaptor. It is a four port hub.
i think that this is not going to power both your pi and your usb attached devices..

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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:10 pm

Agentwright wrote:Hello all, This is my first post, I have a TON to learn. I am brand new to computers and programming. My question is, what is the easiest/best way to manage the single USB port. I have a wireless keyboard/mouse.. and I have a usb wifi adapter.. but I only have one usb port on the Zero... so what is the solution? thanks
Frankly...if you're that new to working with computers and programming, and especially being new to single board computers (SBCs), I would recommend setting the Pi Zero aside and getting a Pi2B, or a Model B+. Once you have established a comfort level with one of those boards, then take up the Pi Zero again for projects suited to it.

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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:52 am

Massi wrote:
PiGraham wrote:These hubs work nicely with Pi Zero and cost less than the Pi.

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00O ... ge_o00_s00

Micro USB to plug into Pi.
Micro USB socket for power in.
3 USB A sockets for mouse, keyboard & WiFi (or whatever)

You can use the micro USB socket for another USB device if put power into the Pi and have the right connector / adaptor. It is a three yuport hub.
i think that this is not going to power both your pi and your usb attached devices..
It may depend what device you have. For the OP with WiFi, Keyboard/mouse it's OK. I have one doing that.
External hard disk not so good.

If you need something beefy pay more and get a big desktop hub. If you just need the basics for Pi0 money and size this is a good option. It does the job.
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Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:46 pm

Would this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Goliton%C2%AE-B ... wifi+combo help?

Providing your keyboard/mouse is bluetooth of course.
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Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:59 pm

jamesh wrote:Would this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Goliton%C2%AE-B ... wifi+combo help?

Providing your keyboard/mouse is bluetooth of course.
That would be great if it weren't so relatively expensive. wifi dongles can be £1, bt dongle £1 .. but no combined ones for less than £15 :(
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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:07 pm

mikerr wrote:
jamesh wrote:Would this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Goliton%C2%AE-B ... wifi+combo help?

Providing your keyboard/mouse is bluetooth of course.
That would be great if it weren't so relatively expensive. wifi dongles can be £1, bt dongle £1 .. but no combined ones for less than £15 :(
I know, it's a bit odd.
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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:33 pm

You may want to check HubPiWi Blue that includes a Wifi as well as Bluetooth. The good thing about it is that it does not require any cable or connector. It was one of the best Pi Zero HAT for Pi Zero at kickstarter.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/17 ... th-3-usb-p

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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:44 pm

bobby21 wrote:You may want to check HubPiWi Blue that includes a Wifi as well as Bluetooth. The good thing about it is that it does not require any cable or connector. It was one of the best Pi Zero HAT for Pi Zero at kickstarter.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/17 ... th-3-usb-p
It looks very interesting. What is the status of it? Is it "a thing" or is it still basically vaporware?
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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:56 pm

I just looked into my drawers and found a Trust 2005 USB hub that worked!

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Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:08 pm

Martin Frezman wrote:It looks very interesting. What is the status of it? Is it "a thing" or is it still basically vaporware?
Previous kickstarters from the same stable have been successful. I have no reason to doubt this one will be too.

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Re: Got a PI Zero! want wifi

Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:31 am

I doubt a Zero can provide enough juice to run a keyboard, mouse and wifi without a powered hub, I tried mine with the above plus a bluetooth dongle on an unpowered hub, and it couldnt cope. OK with mouse and keyboard though.
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