I love the shape, but just don't see the point of the need for the full size connectors, when I can have an adaptor at hand or just have the proper micro/mini cables at hand (I still think mini HDMI was a poor choice over micro HDMI as used by tablets).alphanumeric wrote:I would buy at least two 3A's, assuming they will have the same footprint as the current A+. To replace two of my A+'s. Being the same size as hats has advantages, especially if you don't need 4 USB ports or the Ethernet port. My A+'s have sense hats on them and run headless. The one full size HDMI and one full size USB is great for setting them up, versus say a Zero. .
I'd say there is a lot of point to the 3A. Consider...Right now, the A+ is a Pi Zero on a bigger board that comes with the header pre-installed, has full sized USB and HDMI connectors and takes standard HATs. The Pi3A will have the same quad-core SoC of the 3B (and the 2Bv1.2 aka Pi2B2) and might even have the built-in WiFi/BT of the Pi3B plus--of course--1GB RAM compared to the 512MB of the Pi Zero and the A+.bensimmo wrote:Is there any point in the 3A any more, it been so long since it original announcement, leave it as vapourware.
We have the 3B and the now cut down 3B, the 2B.
A 3A which would be a port adjusted version of either of these, be better to alter the A to a to be a port increased Zero, keeping the mini/micro ports but with WiFi and a USB hub. The A is used for low power compact product where the Zero doesn't work (which must be few).
Anyway, it's all way to late now and it'll be whatever Farnell/RS say the market is wanting out of the A's profile, that the B's and Zero range cannot provide.
Anyway, hope they have a good party
Hence the desirability of the Pi3A. It will be MUCH faster than the Pi Zero. It becomes part of the design tradeoff...are you willing to use a bigger board in order to get more memory and processing power? Or are you willing to sacrifice the extra speed and RAM to fit in a smaller space? Decisions, decisions....bensimmo wrote: Given you're paying 4x price for the convenience (both can run at the same speed).
That's why I use an 3B with my Pi foundation display, an A+ with my (headless) sense hat, and a Zero with my Explorer pHat.W. H. Heydt wrote:Hence the desirability of the Pi3A. It will be MUCH faster than the Pi Zero. It becomes part of the design tradeoff...are you willing to use a bigger board in order to get more memory and processing power? Or are you willing to sacrifice the extra speed and RAM to fit in a smaller space? Decisions, decisions....bensimmo wrote: Given you're paying 4x price for the convenience (both can run at the same speed).
Built in WiFi/BT on the Pi3A is a "wished for feature". Nothing has been said one way or another about the reality. Meanwhile, there is a not too terribly expensive alternative for lack of soldering skills (besides the ever present "Learn!!"). To wit: https://thepihut.com/products/gpio-hamm ... solderless (Pimoroni has them also.)darkbibble wrote:i will be buying 2 or more PI3A, as i would like the added bonus of its micro sized wifi as a handy addition to my PIGear handheld. i dont need extra usb ports on it and i dont have the soldering skills needed for dealing with a pi-zero. plus one or 2 for spares.
W. H. Heydt wrote:No...that'll be the Pi5B.Heater wrote:solar3000,Is that the 16 core, 4 GByte RAM, RISC V based Pi 4 ?I'm waiting for the pi 4.
Just the one secret featuresolar3000 wrote: Of course.
It'll be here tomorrow.
It'll be 8GB of RAM, built in 30MP camera, brain scanner, and a secret feature.
Die shrink which leads to power reduction (and--therefore--thermal reduction). The *ability* to use more RAM (whether or not there is more initially will depend on the BoM costs). The one thing I'd actually like to see is faster external I/O to better use MSDs. I think the only--potentially--practical/economic way to do that is USB 3. I don't even care about a clock speed bump. So basically, all I want out of a Pi4B is a die shrink and USB 3. Everything else can stay the same and I'd be a happy camper...especially once a CM4 and USB 3 version of the WD SATA adapter comes along. (And, lest people get upset, I am quite aware of what "die shrink" implies.)alphanumeric wrote:IMHO, for what most do with a Pi, 4 cores is plenty. More RAM will always be welcome though.