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Mathematica license terms

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:44 pm
by MartenR
Hi,
Can someone clarify the license terms, especially what
"license to use the Product solely for personal or educational purposes " means?

Especially which use cases are allowed for example:
a) Using it for university students in a computer pool for their studies. (This is probably allowed, right?)
b) Is using it for PhD student for their research allowed? (Even if their paid by the university, as it is the usual case in Germany?)
c) Is basic research at a university educational or commercial?

A second thing, what means running on a raspberry pi, is a X-Tunnel from another computer allowed?

Marten

Re: Mathematica license terms

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:29 pm
by eben
I am not a lawyer, but my reading is that all of these are permitted.

Re: Mathematica license terms

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:40 pm
by dennisw
Yes, I would think running using X forwarding (tunnel) would be allowed, because it's still running on the Pi. It's just that the input is coming from a PC and the output is going there. However, this probably should be clarified by someone from Wolfram just to be safe.

Re: Mathematica license terms

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:37 pm
by gasguru
MartenR wrote:Hi,
Can someone clarify the license terms, especially what
"license to use the Product solely for personal or educational purposes " means?

Especially which use cases are allowed for example:
a) Using it for university students in a computer pool for their studies. (This is probably allowed, right?)
..I _guess_ yes if there are physical rPis in the university's pool or the student owns etc a physical rPi, and no if the rPis are virtual or emulated, based on Alex Newman's November 21, 2013 at 9:08 pm response in http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/5282 (the launch thread). _They_ (the copyright owners) will have to clarify this.
b) Is using it for PhD student for their research allowed? (Even if their paid by the university, as it is the usual case in Germany?)
..add to this melee, e.g. multi national oil companies sponsoring research on hydraulic fracturing... such commercial sponsorship is quite common in e.g. Norway, and encouraged by the Norw. government, so they can cut normal academic funding.
c) Is basic research at a university educational or commercial?
..define "basic research", even e.g. Statoil claims they sponsor "basic research."

..and I would be _v_e_r_y_ surprised to see Statoil or Microsoft sponsor anything worth copyrighting or patenting etc under the "j." chapter in http://www.wolfram.com/legal/agreements ... ry-pi.html , where the author(s) are denied their right to enforce their own copyrights, as far as I understand their license. This license "bug" I believe will be fixed quickly.
A second thing, what means running on a raspberry pi, is a X-Tunnel from another computer allowed?
..yes, according to Alex Newman's November 21, 2013 at 9:08 pm response to Philip Ashmore in http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/5282 (the launch thread).
Marten

Re: Mathematica license terms

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:17 am
by MartenR
My definition of basic research is research far away from commercial application, only for the sake of knowledge.
As example in Germany basic research like it is funded mainly through DFG, Max Planck or Helmholtz. (Example for US funding will be NSF, may be NIH, sorry I do not know the UK agencies for this).
(As opposed to funding for more applied research, e.g. BMBF, Fraunhofer or funding directly from industrial partners for a specific application or e.g. device).

Marten

Re: Mathematica license terms

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:12 pm
by gasguru
MartenR wrote:My definition of basic research is research far away from commercial application, only for the sake of knowledge.
..like Wilhelm Conrad Röntgen's research on radiation, agreed.
MartenR wrote:As example in Germany basic research like it is funded mainly through DFG, Max Planck or Helmholtz. (Example for US funding will be NSF, may be NIH, sorry I do not know the UK agencies for this).
(As opposed to funding for more applied research, e.g. BMBF, Fraunhofer or funding directly from industrial partners for a specific application or e.g. device).

Marten
..or Statoil funded "basisforskning", the last few governments has preferred to confuse "grunnforskning" with whatever the oil firms do, to prevent any new or Norwegian Wilhelm Conrad Röntgens from showing up here.

Re: Mathematica license terms

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:17 pm
by drxenocide
From my discussions with Wolfram, it's more what they DON'T want you to do:
1) Using it for government work (they specifically told me I couldn't use a pi for this - this would require a government license)
2) Selling a product that was in some way developed using Mathematica (this would require a commercial license)

Both of those licenses cost a lot of money. The Pi seems like it is licensed under "Student Edition" and/or "Home edition".

Without checking online, this is how I understand the terms.