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World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 5:49 am
by NavoLabs
We relased the world’s first and smallest POE hat for the 3 B+ model 2 weeks ago, check it out let us know what do you think.

https://youtu.be/NGuofQispi4

https://www.amazon.com/NavoLabs-Raspber ... ds=Poe+hat

www.navolabs.com

Regards

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 9:18 am
by 6by9
You appear not to ship outside the US though :(
Interesting choice of shipping countries listed on your website (Swaziland?!), but no actual delivery options for anywhere other than the USA. Is it only a delivery issue, or are you needing compliance testing for those countries too? (One assumes you have it for the US).

Technically you're also the World's largest 3B+ POE board too ;)

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 9:34 am
by bensimmo
Swaziland should now be called eSwatini, the King changed the name of the country last month.

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 11:45 am
by NavoLabs
6by9 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 9:18 am
Technically you're also the World's largest 3B+ POE board too ;)
Well, very interesting point :), how many do you need ? I can send you an order link if you need one or two, or we can work on enabling ordering from you country for more qty.

Best Regards

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 10:33 pm
by Imperf3kt
6by9 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 9:18 am

Technically you're also the World's largest 3B+ POE board too ;)
I was gonna say this, so instead I'll say its also the world's most expensive POE hat
That or that its the only POE hat you'll buy in the near future!

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 11:49 pm
by fruitoftheloom
NavoLabs wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 11:45 am
6by9 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 9:18 am
Technically you're also the World's largest 3B+ POE board too ;)
Well, very interesting point :), how many do you need ? I can send you an order link if you need one or two, or we can work on enabling ordering from you country for more qty.

Best Regards

No thanks will wait for Official PoE HAT

https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/poe-hat

https://www.element14.com/community/doc ... hernet-hat

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 1:09 am
by NavoLabs
Imperf3kt wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:33 pm
6by9 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 9:18 am

Technically you're also the World's largest 3B+ POE board too ;)
I was gonna say this, so instead I'll say its also the world's most expensive POE hat
That or that its the only POE hat you'll buy in the near future!
Well, I will have to disagree with you on that, when you count that this is the only PoE that will allow you to keep your current enclosure, plus the price deference is not that much, if you have a case for your Pi, good luck fitting the "official Hat" in it, or wait for months for a new case to come out :geek:

Regards

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 5:13 am
by rpdom
Neat board!

I won't be buying, because I don't need one (maybe in the future).

Just thinking about the PoE connector on the Pi 3B+, it might have been nice to have an extra two pins going to the +5V and Ground of the Pi, so a PoE board could be fitted without using the 40-pin GPIO connector. That would allow the PoE board and a HAT (possibly with an extender for the 40-pin connector) to co-exist. Ok, so the official PoE HAT (presumably) needs the i2c connections as well and maybe some others, but still...

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 12:20 pm
by KanoMaster22
This kinda made me laugh. If it is the first then it would also be the smallest, largest, most expensive, least expensive etc. as someone else has pointed out. :D

But that is not the case because there is already a POE hat for the pi out there for sale right now.

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 12:40 pm
by fruitoftheloom
KanoMaster22 wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 12:20 pm
This kinda made me laugh. If it is the first then it would also be the smallest, largest, most expensive, least expensive etc. as someone else has pointed out. :D

But that is not the case because there is already a POE hat for the pi out there for sale right now.


https://coolcomponents.co.uk/products/p ... spberry-pi

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 6:12 pm
by NavoLabs
Please read the topic, POE 3B + PoE hat, the one you are linking here is not, another point is the one you linked looks like a PoE head not hat :mrgreen:

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:42 pm
by fruitoftheloom
NavoLabs wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 6:12 pm
Please read the topic, POE 3B + PoE hat, the one you are linking here is not, another point is the one you linked looks like a PoE head not hat :mrgreen:

Whatever, the Official PoE will soon be available and cheaper !!!!

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 2:58 am
by Imperf3kt
NavoLabs wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 1:09 am
Imperf3kt wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:33 pm
6by9 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 9:18 am

Technically you're also the World's largest 3B+ POE board too ;)
I was gonna say this, so instead I'll say its also the world's most expensive POE hat
That or that its the only POE hat you'll buy in the near future!
Well, I will have to disagree with you on that, when you count that this is the only PoE that will allow you to keep your current enclosure, plus the price deference is not that much, if you have a case for your Pi, good luck fitting the "official Hat" in it, or wait for months for a new case to come out :geek:

Regards
I think you missed the joke.
The punchline is that currently, this is the _only_ retail board in existence. There is no other board to buy. This one is both the most expensive, and the cheapest. The biggest and the smallest. The most highest performance and the worst.

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 3:17 am
by n67
fruitoftheloom wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 7:42 pm
NavoLabs wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 6:12 pm
Please read the topic, POE 3B + PoE hat, the one you are linking here is not, another point is the one you linked looks like a PoE head not hat :mrgreen:

Whatever, the Official PoE will soon be available and cheaper !!!!
Maybe. Maybe not.

Remember, the RPF makes no statements about future products. I see that all the time on this forum.

It follows, then, that if they do make a statement, it can be largely discounted. Since they never do.

If you see what I mean...

In any event, I certainly don't think you can make any assumptions about price.

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 6:36 am
by fruitoftheloom
n67 wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 3:17 am
fruitoftheloom wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 7:42 pm
NavoLabs wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 6:12 pm


Please read the topic, POE 3B + PoE hat, the one you are linking here is not, another point is the one you linked looks like a PoE head not hat :mrgreen:

Whatever, the Official PoE will soon be available and cheaper !!!!
Maybe. Maybe not.

Remember, the RPF makes no statements about future products. I see that all the time on this forum.

It follows, then, that if they do make a statement, it can be largely discounted. Since they never do.

If you see what I mean...

In any event, I certainly don't think you can make any assumptions about price.

viewtopic.php?f=93&t=213188&sid=a884bbf ... 1#p1313959

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 9:47 am
by DirkS
NavoLabs wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 5:49 am
We relased the world’s first and smallest POE hat for the 3 B+ model 2 weeks ago
[pedant]
It may be a hat, but strictly speaking you can't call it a HAT..
https://github.com/raspberrypi/hats#hat-requirements
[/pedant]

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 10:56 am
by bensimmo
n67 wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 3:17 am

If you see what I mean...

In any event, I certainly don't think you can make any assumptions about price.
I get what you mean but,
It's advertised on the website and it isn't a future product as it was launched when the 3B+ was launched, technically vapourware, if that term is still used as you cannot buy it.
But pricing, availability (pre-order) is on the manufacturers website.
About £15+VAT.
Which isn't too bad, but it's three times the price of a Zero for a transformer and a fan ;-)

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 10:17 pm
by NavoLabs
DirkS wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 9:47 am
NavoLabs wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 5:49 am
We relased the world’s first and smallest POE hat for the 3 B+ model 2 weeks ago
[pedant]
It may be a hat, but strictly speaking you can't call it a HAT..
https://github.com/raspberrypi/hats#hat-requirements
[/pedant]
Really, well it covers most of the specs, and keep in mind, even the official hat, when it comes out will not fit the requirements above !
does it have an eeprrom ?

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 4:32 pm
by hippy
NavoLabs wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 10:17 pm
Really, well it covers most of the specs
No, really it doesn't.
NavoLabs wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 10:17 pm
keep in mind, even the official hat, when it comes out will not fit the requirements above !
does it have an eeprrom ?
It is somewhat presumptuous to suggest the smart, skilled and competent people at RPT and RPF don't know what they are doing and would call something a HAT when it does not comply with the HAT specification.

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 4:49 pm
by netromaster
bensimmo wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 9:34 am
Swaziland should now be called eSwatini, the King changed the name of the country last month.
Thanks for that little bit of information. I never would have known that.

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:10 am
by NavoLabs
hippy wrote:
Sun May 13, 2018 4:32 pm
It is somewhat presumptuous to suggest the smart, skilled and competent people at RPT and RPF don't know what they are doing and would call something a HAT when it does not comply with the HAT specification.
Listen, don’t put words in my mouth, if you don’t like the topic or the product ingnore it and save me your none sense, none productive comments, the world advances by helthy competition and productive discussions.

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:13 am
by KanoMaster22
Just to say for anyone who didnt believe me, here is the first POE Hat for the Pi 3B+ that is also cheaper!

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:04 am
by jamesh
Can I suggest that people wind their attitudes in a bit?

Navolabs - please continue, I have no problem with your posts.

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:45 am
by KanoMaster22
KanoMaster22 wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 6:13 am
Just to say for anyone who didnt believe me, here is the first POE Hat for the Pi 3B+ that is also cheaper!
Edit: Not sure actually on the exact dates but this POE 'hat' definitely isn't the only one

Re: World’s first and smallest Pi 3B+ Poe Hat

Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:46 am
by KanoMaster22
Is it available in the UK?