kai-bcn
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Offline NOOBS with OpenELEC on A+ board

Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:37 pm

Hello,

I own an A+ (that I just purchased this week), so I have no network.
This means I cannot use the network version of NOOBS, aka NOOBS LITE.
I want to install OpenELEC via NOOBS. How can I do that ?

All guides I find simply point me to NOOBS, but they don't seem to take into account that NOOBS seems to have dropped OpenELEC for offline setup, and only support it as a network install. And it seems that enabling Wifi in NOOBS is not exactly trivial either ...

I wonder if those who decided to drop all those OSs from NOOBS thought about, how much pain and disappointment this will cause.

What's next? Can I manually put together an offline NOOBS that includes OpenELEC somehow?
Thoughts?

Thanks, Kai

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Re: Offline NOOBS with OpenELEC on A+ board

Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:44 pm

kai-bcn wrote:Hello,

I own an A+ (that I just purchased this week), so I have no network.
This means I cannot use the network version of NOOBS, aka NOOBS LITE.
I want to install OpenELEC via NOOBS. How can I do that ?

All guides I find simply point me to NOOBS, but they don't seem to take into account that NOOBS seems to have dropped OpenELEC for offline setup, and only support it as a network install. And it seems that enabling Wifi in NOOBS is not exactly trivial either ...

I wonder if those who decided to drop all those OSs from NOOBS thought about, how much pain and disappointment this will cause.

What's next? Can I manually put together an offline NOOBS that includes OpenELEC somehow?
Thoughts?

Thanks, Kai
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Re: Offline NOOBS with OpenELEC on A+ board

Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:17 pm

Forget NOOBS. If you want OpenELEC download the image from here, write it to a micro SD card and boot.

http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/

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Re: Offline NOOBS with OpenELEC on A+ board

Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:23 pm

Yes, I had visited that page, too ... and I wonder if you noticed that the download links go to Error 404 Not Found:
http://openelec.tv/get-openelec/downloa ... -pi-builds
Nice, huh? And how would one sign up on that wiki, to correct these links? Couldn't find a way to do that. http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php/Speci ... gin/signup :(

If anyone has such an account, and could fix the links ... I think this one is the new URL:
http://openelec.tv/get-openelec

Other than that ... I cannot find any mention of NOOBS on these pages either. NOOBS allows multi-boot, doesn't it? Is there no way to get OpenELEC + Raspbian, easily ?

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Re: Offline NOOBS with OpenELEC on A+ board

Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:27 pm

kai-bcn wrote: Other than that ... I cannot find any mention of NOOBS on these pages either. NOOBS allows multi-boot, doesn't it? Is there no way to get OpenELEC + Raspbian, easily ?
Forget NOOBS. Download the image you want and write it directly to the card.

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Re: Offline NOOBS with OpenELEC on A+ board

Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:28 pm

ame wrote:Forget NOOBS. If you want OpenELEC download the image from here, write it to a micro SD card and boot.

http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
Thanks, ame.
Any idea why on that page (i.e. the official raspberrypi.org ) as of now (2015-01-23) the OpenELEC download is still Version:4.0.5 / Release date: 2014-06-14 ?
OpenElec itself seems to refer to even 4.2.1 as "legacy" ... so I wonder if they have done anything wrong, and new version don't get the official blessing anymore ...

Sorry if these are stupid questions ... like I said, I'm completely new here, and am just reporting my confusion. Hopefully it serves as constructive feedback to improve things, rather than anyone taking offense, please!

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Re: Offline NOOBS with OpenELEC on A+ board

Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:32 pm

I have no idea. It's what I am running, and it works. I am not interested in a later version, and I am not interested in NOOBS.

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Re: Offline NOOBS with OpenELEC on A+ board

Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:35 pm

You could download an older version of noobs that included OpenElec e.g. v1.3.9

http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/NOOBS/ ... 014-07-08/
PINN - NOOBS with the extras... https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=142574

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Re: Offline NOOBS with OpenELEC on A+ board

Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:20 am

Hopefully I am not Hijacking, as it has been a while since someone posted on this.

I am running BerryBoot. OpenElec 5.0.8 fails to Install to the Multiboot environment (even though it works fine on the one in my Living room.)

I am getting a sea of 404 errors when trying to load OpenElec into other BerryBoot load Pi2.


Please Advise

Thank You

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Re: Offline NOOBS with OpenELEC on A+ board

Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:33 pm

Is there no way to get OpenELEC + Raspbian, easily ?
Easily, no. I recon this is one of the reasons that you see it posted often that the A+ is not for newbies.

Options include intalling an ethernet port (perhaps via usb), using a B+ pi with NOOBS and after installing, moving it to the A+ or creating a multiboot system yourself from scratch (search this site).

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Re: Offline NOOBS with OpenELEC on A+ board

Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:50 pm

if you want to use NOOBS to install OpenELEC, then download NOOBS Lite and copy it to a SD card as usual.
before you start it the very first time, you have to download the OS'es you want to install offline and put them to the NOOBS Lite SD card as well.
download the OpenELEC files (for RPi1 A/B/A+/B+) from here: https://downloads.raspberrypi.org/
openelec_pi1/OpenELEC_Pi1.png
openelec_pi1/marketing.tar (optional)
openelec_pi1/os.json
openelec_pi1/partition_setup.sh
openelec_pi1/partitions.json
openelec_pi1/OpenELEC_RPi_System.tar.xz
openelec_pi1/OpenELEC_RPi_Storage.tar.xz

and copy those files to /os/openelec_pi1 on your NOOBS Lite SD card...

that's it.

(in case you use a RPi2 B, than you have to work with OpenELEC_Pi2 instead of OpenELEC_Pi1)

BTW: that OpenELEC is version 5.0.2 and was released 2015-02-09. use the OpenELEC internal updater to update to 5.0.8.
I am using OpenELEC 5.0.8 on NOOBS as multiboot environment without any problems (OpenELEC + Raspbian + PiPLAY)
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RPi B (rev1, 256MB), B (rev2, 512MB), B+, 2B, 3B, 3B+, ZeroW, RPi4, ...

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Re: Offline NOOBS with OpenELEC on A+ board

Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:23 pm

tpylkko wrote:
Is there no way to get OpenELEC + Raspbian, easily ?
Easily, no. I recon this is one of the reasons that you see it posted often that the A+ is not for newbies.
The hardest part of the A+ is when you have a WiFi dongle where the driver isn't in the base code that you install, you need a B+ or 2B to be able to install the driver using an ethernet connection before swapping the SDCard over to the A+.
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Re: Offline NOOBS with OpenELEC on A+ board

Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:47 am

beta-tester wrote:...
BTW: that OpenELEC is version 5.0.2 and was released 2015-02-09. use the OpenELEC internal updater to update to 5.0.8
ah, i forgot that you are using RPi1 A+ without network... if you want to update your running OpenELEC 5.0.2 to a newer version, you can do that also manually by hand...
(doesn't matter, if you have OpenELEC as standalone or OpenELEC with Noobs installed)
download the newest OpenELEC version for your RPi from here http://openelec.tv/get-openelec
(the tar version, not the image version!)
and then simply copy the KERNEL, KERNEL.md5, SYSTEM and SYSTEM.md5 files from that downloaded tar file (from subfolder /target) to the update folder of OpenELEC (/storage/.update)
after next boot into OpenELEC, it will bootstrap the new update...
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