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some info please : - )

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:32 pm
by pontypool
I have read the sticky but my questions aren't answered.
I had my sd card pre loaded with noobs, it's 32 gigabytes and I loaded the reccomended OS just fine. However in windows the full space isn't being detected. I contacted the manufacturer and he suggests formatting and then installing noobs. Well I don't really see the point in that, as I already have it preloaded and instead from reading the sticky here I can see there's an upgrade command.
What kind of tool can I use just so I can view and put files onto my sd card from within windows?
Also, I have heard that certain files need to be edited to allow for a resolution greater than 720 ? is that true? if so which files need to be edited and are there any other typically edited files while i'm at it?

Re: some info please : - )

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:24 pm
by DeeJay
pontypool wrote:I have read the sticky but my questions aren't answered.
I had my sd card pre loaded with noobs, it's 32 gigabytes and I loaded the reccomended OS just fine. However in windows the full space isn't being detected. I contacted the manufacturer and he suggests formatting and then installing noobs. Well I don't really see the point in that, as I already have it preloaded and instead from reading the sticky here I can see there's an upgrade command.
What kind of tool can I use just so I can view and put files onto my sd card from within windows?
Also, I have heard that certain files need to be edited to allow for a resolution greater than 720 ? is that true? if so which files need to be edited and are there any other typically edited files while i'm at it?
2 separate questions here. They would more conveniently been put in separate posts.

1] if you have used the NOOBS installer there are some consequences. Windows can only see and report on the space occupied by the installer itself. This space is not made available to the Operating Systems booted up by the RPi. By design, to minimise the chance of corruption of the recovery software. So you cannot (easily) use the SD card to move files between Windows and the RPi. Alternatives include using a usb memory stick plugged into the usb slot on the RPi, or installing software on the Windows machine that can access and read/write linux (ext4) partitions.

2] the file that influences display resolution is config.txt. if you have used NOOBS as your installer then the Recovery Console has a built-in editor available by a click on the option at the top of the screen that allows you to change config.txt for the currently-active installed Operating System.

Re: some info please : - )

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:37 pm
by sdjf
Windows cannot see the main partition in Linux, so you cannot put any files into it from your windows machine. As someone else mentioned, you could put files onto a USB stick from Windows and then attach that to your Pi and either just access them from your Pi, or transfer or copy them to the Pi.

Another option that I used when I was not able to directly write to the root partition on the Pi (which is what is not accessible from Windows and from older Linux systems), is I put files into the first partition, partition 1, the boot partition, and then when I booted my Pi, I could transfer them from the boot partition to the main partition (partition 2, the root partition, which is written in ext4 format that Windows cannot read).

That method of putting files into the boot partition is only good for smaller files, but can be handy if you do not have extra USB sticks lying around.

The boot partition is written in vfat format, which is how come you can see and write to it from windows. Windows likes vfat (or various versions of fat file systems).

Re: some info please : - )

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:15 pm
by pontypool
I can transfer the files via usb, but that drive is only usb2. i specifically got a memory card reader and sd card that was class 10, because i wanted the full usb3 speed. Also my pen drives are 8-16, transferring blu ray size movies is impossible. does anyone know of software that enables the viewing on ext4 for windows 7? i came across ext2 explore, but it doesn't seem to notice all the drives , only the recovery drive.

also Ext2Fsd doesn't work, or i can't get it to work... the links i found online seemed to be explaining menus that were different to mine, maybe an older version? i have 0.5. but regardless, it still only shows the recovery part of the sd card.

Re: some info please : - )

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:05 pm
by DeeJay
pontypool wrote:i specifically got a memory card reader and sd card that was class 10, because i wanted the full usb3 speed.
See http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentatio ... ypi/usb.md, which states -
The Raspberry Pi Model B is equipped with two USB2.0 ports.

Re: some info please : - )

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:30 pm
by pontypool
DeeJay wrote:
pontypool wrote:i specifically got a memory card reader and sd card that was class 10, because i wanted the full usb3 speed.
See http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentatio ... ypi/usb.md, which states -
The Raspberry Pi Model B is equipped with two USB2.0 ports.
Thanks for that, but I already knew what the pi has, but it has nothing to do with how fast I transfer files from my pc to the memory card.
Furthermore, how fast the usb ports are on the pi is irrelevant, seeing as I already stated I have a class 10 sd card, so the data would be coming directly from that.

Re: some info please : - )

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:31 pm
by 1pi2much
pontypool wrote: Thanks for that, but I already knew what the pi has, but it has nothing to do with how fast I transfer files from my pc to the memory card.
Furthermore, how fast the usb ports are on the pi is irrelevant, seeing as I already stated I have a class 10 sd card, so the data would be coming directly from that.
Looks like you want to transfer large video files into the SD card, and then plug the sd card into the pi.

That is not a common way of file transfer to the pi. Mainly because the disk format of the pi and windows differ.
Conceptually there might be a way to create multiple partitions on the SD card, one of which is writable by windows and then
use that partition to copy files to. But as I say that is not common and will be hard to find instructions on how to do it.

Instead people copy the files as a file transfer between windows and the pi. This is going to be slow over the network
but possible. (use winscp)
The fastest way to do this might be

Copy File from Windows to USB thumb drive.
Plug thumb drive into Pi + mount it.
Copy Files from thumb drive to SD card.

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