New to the Raspberry Pi

[Raspberry Pi Micro]

Rpi Imager is an OS installer that runs on Windows, Mac or lInux (ie. your existing "PC" computer).
You use it to burn an image file of an OS to an SD card so that you can run it on your Pi.
If you want to install another OS, you need to remove your SD card from the Pi, and reinstall another OS on it using RPI imager on your "PC".

PINN is also an OS installer (amongst other things). But it runs on the Pi itself, not on your "PC".
So you can use RPi Imager on your PC to install PINN onto your SD card like any other OS. When PINN is running on your SD card on the PI, you can use it to download multiple OSes from the internet directly to your SD card without requiring your "PC" (or you can install an OS locally from USB drives).
If you install multiple OSes using PINN, then PINN also becomes a boot manager/os switcher so you can decide which OS to run each time you boot your Pi.

PINN has quite a large catalog of OSes that it can install. You can add other OSes to it yourself, but OSes need a bit of conversion first.
RISCOS is one such OS that it can install, but it is quite an old version. Due to the file format/partitions that RISCOS uses, it is quite special, hence why it has not been updated in a while (needs the help of the original devs to do that). So you can use PINN to run RasPIOS and RISC-OS on the same SD card if you want to (just check which version of RPi this RISCOS can run on first)

However, re-reading your posts, your main requirement seems to be to to run BeebEm, to emulate using the BBC Micro
I would therefore suggest you have a look at https://www.riscosdev.com/direct/
This has probably the most comprehensive & authentic set of BBC Micro emulators on it.
It is not available under PINN, so you would have to burn it direct to your SD card using RPi Imager.

I would just like to keep one OS on one SD card, and not have multiple OS, just keeps things simple I think.

Reference with PINN, sounds a little complicated, or is it just me. With the RISC OS image downloaded can you simply burn it direct or must you use PINN.

If I have to use PINN, is there a step by step guide on how to do this.

One thing that I would very much like to do is to have The BBC Micro Emulator up and running on RISC OS, at the same time would also like to get BeebEm running on RPiOS.

[Raspberry Pi Micro]

How can you install PINN using Raspberry Pi Imager on Mac OS, then to install RISC OS, is this the only way to install RISC OS, or is there another way.

Note: This commentary is not aimed at the poster of the above quote, but rather at that subset of the "regulars" here, who never really understood the point of the NOOBS model.

That said, the above quote represents the total antithesis of what NOOBS (i.e., PINN) is about. The core idea is that you DON"T NEED any "imager" type program to install and use it. All you need is an "unzip" program - something which can be assumed to be obvious and available on any platform. The whole point of NOOBS/PINN is that you don't need to endure the risk and the pain of installing some, potentially dangerous, third party, "imager" program.

I never understood why the maker of PINN implemented an "imager" way of using the product, but I suppose it was one of those "Because it was an interesting challenge - because it was there - sort of thing".

So, yes, you can get going with PINN on a Mac, just as long as you have "unzip" available at the Terminal Prompt.

Is there a simple step by step guide, vertically for a beginner like myself.

[procount]

@Raspberry Pi Micro - Sorry, this is all going a bit off topic for your original post.

I would just like to keep one OS on one SD card, and not have multiple OS, just keeps things simple I think.

Then as I said previously, Forget PINN. You don't need it for your use case.

Reference with PINN, sounds a little complicated, or is it just me. With the RISC OS image downloaded can you simply burn it direct or must you use PINN.

You can burn it directly with RPi Imager from your Mac. You don't need to use PINN.

One thing that I would very much like to do is to have The BBC Micro Emulator up and running on RISC OS, at the same time would also like to get BeebEm running on RPiOS.

Then you should just follow my previous advice and download the newer version of RiscOS-direct from the link I provided and flash it to your SD card using Rpi Imager.

(quote=procount post_id=1681973 time=1592558167 user_id=74876)
However, re-reading your posts, your main requirement seems to be to to run BeebEm, to emulate using the BBC Micro
I would therefore suggest you have a look at https://www.riscosdev.com/direct/
This has probably the most comprehensive & authentic set of BBC Micro emulators on it.
It is not available under PINN, so you would have to burn it direct to your SD card using RPi Imager.
(/quote)

Is there a simple step by step guide, vertically for a beginner like myself.
If I have to use PINN, is there a step by step guide on how to do this.

You don't need PINN, but if you want to use it later, follow the link in my signature or look at https://github.com/procount/pinn and in particular the main manual is at ->https://github.com/procount/pinn/blob/m ... ME_PINN.md. It's pretty easy but more featuresome than NOOBS.

[GlowInTheDark]

It does sound like the OP doesn't need PINN - and, in fact, apparently the specific thing he wants to install and use is not available under PINN, so if that is all true, then the issue is solved/moot for the OP.

Just for the record, the 3 primary advantages of NOOBS/PINN are:

1) You can install multiple OSes on a single card. I.e., you get the "multi-boot" functionality, that lots of people seek.

2) You have an emergency reset to factory defaults functionality built-in.

3) You can do it all using ordinary tools. You don't need any fancy "imager" type program.

For me, #3 was always the big draw. Particularly, when setting things up for other people (*).

(*) Meaning: It is easier for them to understand the process when you don't need to invoke some "imager" type program.

For completeness, the primary disadvantages of NOOBS/PINN are:

1) It takes longer to boot
2) It uses up more space on the SD card

Given what procount has said about the sizes of SD cards these days, I suppose #2 is moot.
#1 is moot for me, since I rarely reboot my PI machines.

[Raspberry Pi Micro]

Success in installing RISC OS 5.27

Here is how ir was done using Raspberry Pi Imager v1.3 nothing else was needed.

64GB microSD was inserted into my Mac so to check no issues with the card and that it could be read.


Raspberry Pi Image v1.3 started.


Next select Operating System - Use Custom.


RISC OS 5.27 selected.


Next step was microSD card was selected.



Raspberry Pi Image v1.3 writing and verifying image install.



Installation process completed, microSD card removed.


PiBoot Disk was inserted to check that it could be read.


Folder contents of the PiBoot disk.


RISC OS 5.27 finally up and running, because I have a flatscreen TV being used as a second screen, some adjustments I will have to make so that the complete desktop and icon bar at the bottom can be see. The only way of doing this is manually. I can explain exactly how I will do this if anyone needs to know Not sure how you take a screenshot when using RISC OS. Sorry for the poor image of RISC OS, only way I could take a photo using my phone.


Next step will be to get RPiOS up and running which hopefully will not be too difficult.

[Raspberry Pi Micro]

I think there are a couple of bugs within RISC OS 5.27 I will need to look into this a little more as to why this maybe happening. In the meantime I will be using RISC OS 5.24 which looks much more stable.

[Raspberry Pi Micro]

I now have 2 BBC Micro emulators setup very nicely on RISC OS 5.24, !65Tube and !BeebIt, both work very well and no errors or issues. There are 2 other RISC OS applications !ADFFS and !BBCFiles, both being able to transfer files. The Blank 1 is an .ssd file formatted to 80 track format. The list of BBC Micro ROMs again work well with both BBC Micro emulators, making use of most of all features in both applications.

[Raspberry Pi Micro]

Finally I now have RPiOS up and running on my Pi 3, with no errors or issues.

Raspberry Pi welcome screen, which was nice to see.


Selecting, Country, Language and Timezone, and then setting location.



Setting up a password was nice and simple.


The setup screen, I did't select this option because I had no black border, if I had selected this option, all that would have happened was the RPiOS desktop screen, parts of the edge you would not be able to see because it will have been expanded thinking the desktop has a black border.


Next was selecting your Wireless Network, nice and simple.


Next step was to select and Update Software.


Next step was to check, download and finally install software updates.




Finally RPiOS System Software Updated.


Setup finally completed.


Finally RPiOS desktop screen.

[Raspberry Pi Micro]

This is one BBC Micro game that I'm currently modifying and working on, I have mage a couple of adjustments on !BeebIt, on RISC OS 5.24 and is now working perfectly. This game will be making new completely new screens.