Brad Q
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Raspbian vs Pi OS

Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:59 pm

First does an installed Raspbian (32bit) just become Pi OS upon a "standard" update?

After reading the vlog on why the name was changed, I am left to wonder if Raspbian (including the PC version) will continue. Will it become a stand alone OS, will it "morph" in Pi OS, will it just die off?

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Re: Raspbian vs Pi OS

Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:09 pm

after updating and upgrading last night:
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still sporting the "venerable one"

AFAIKR this unit's OS installation was done last December 2019
is there any way to check the "age" of the installation?
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Re: Raspbian vs Pi OS

Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:15 pm

The only thing that has changed is the name, the OS is still the same , it's still raspbian buster with customisation by the the raspberry pi foundation/trading .

I suggest you read the post by plugwash in this thread
viewtopic.php?f=66&t=275380

The never was a raspbian for the PC , it was always just Debian with Raspberry Pi Desktop, which is unchanged.
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Re: Raspbian vs Pi OS

Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:17 pm

Brad Q wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:59 pm
First does an installed Raspbian (32bit) just become Pi OS upon a "standard" update?
Yes.

After an update/full-upgrade the 'old thing based on Raspbian' becomes the 'new thing based on Raspbian'.

It's just like previous updates, except the new thing is now known as "Raspberry Pi OS" where the old thing was commonly referred to, not entirely accurately, as "Raspbian".

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Re: Raspbian vs Pi OS

Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:14 am

I do not think that it really can be based on Raspbian. The major reason for the name change was that the 64 bit version would not have anything Raspbian in it. It also would not make sense to keep the 32bit and 64bit different. Keeping them the same or at least as close as possible(to me) would mean building from the same source code but just compiling it for the different architectures.

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Re: Raspbian vs Pi OS

Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:20 am

Brad Q wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:14 am
I do not think that it really can be based on Raspbian.
From the link given above:

"raspberry pi 32-bit OS" = raspbian base userland + raspberry pi kernels (32-bit and 64-bit) + raspberry pi UI and graphics stack enhancements + raspberry pi additional software

"raspberry pi 64-bit OS" = debian arm64 base userland + raspberry pi 64-bit kernel + raspberry pi UI and graphics stack enhancements + raspberry pi additional software

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Re: Raspbian vs Pi OS

Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:21 am

Brad Q wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:14 am
I do not think that it really can be based on Raspbian. The major reason for the name change was that the 64 bit version would not have anything Raspbian in it. It also would not make sense to keep the 32bit and 64bit different. Keeping them the same or at least as close as possible(to me) would mean building from the same source code but just compiling it for the different architectures.

Please read this post, you are just confusing the reason for a name change:

viewtopic.php?f=66&t=275380#p1668466
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