NosajTrah
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How Do I Change Desktop GUI In Raspian Buster?

Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:16 pm

I have the latest Raspian Buster for my Raspberry Pi 4 desktop and want to know how to change the GUI to something more appealing. I am still really new to Linus in general but with dummy directions I can do anything.

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Re: How Do I Change Desktop GUI In Raspian Buster?

Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:34 pm

I'm not sure you really know what you are asking or if that is what you want. But here is an old thread on the subject:
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view ... hp?t=19042

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Re: How Do I Change Desktop GUI In Raspian Buster?

Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:47 pm

I want to change the desktop environment to something like LXDE or XFCE but the guides are see are on doing this with Raspian Lite, I am using Raspian Buster, is there a difference?

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Re: How Do I Change Desktop GUI In Raspian Buster?

Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:51 pm

The default desktop manager in Raspbian IS LXDE.

Raspbian "Lite" is Raspbian without X server etc. so then you can configure your desktop/window-manager from scratch.

"Stretch" and "Buster" are different releases of Rasbian based on Debian releases with the same codename. ( Stretch = 9.x Buster= 10 )

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Re: How Do I Change Desktop GUI In Raspian Buster?

Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:15 pm

Ok, how to I get LightDM to launch at boot so I can choose my environment, it just goes to desktop automatically right now. I installed a few different environments and want to try them out.

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Re: How Do I Change Desktop GUI In Raspian Buster?

Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:39 pm

"raspi-config" from command line ( there is a gui version too from the menu ) lets you disable automatic login and then I believe you should get to LightDM.

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Re: How Do I Change Desktop GUI In Raspian Buster?

Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:43 pm

Ok trying it thanks

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Re: How Do I Change Desktop GUI In Raspian Buster?

Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:46 pm

Well that does bring up login dialog box but not options to change environment GUI, how do I activate the environments I installed?

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Re: How Do I Change Desktop GUI In Raspian Buster?

Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:54 pm

NosajTrah wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:16 pm
want to know how to change the GUI to something more appealing. I am still really new to Linus


It is your system, and you are free to configure it however you wish.


But as someone who is not new to Linux or unix-like Operating Systems in general, I think Raspberry Pi have done quite a good job of making their Desktop customisation accessible to beginners and productive enough for more advanced users.

Good luck in your search for something more 'appealing' while still being functional. Perhaps you would let us know what you choose?

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Re: How Do I Change Desktop GUI In Raspian Buster?

Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:04 pm

You'll need to change to a different greeter in lightdm's config. Our default one does not have a session selection dropdown or anything like that.

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Re: How Do I Change Desktop GUI In Raspian Buster?

Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:29 pm

ShiftPlusOne wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:04 pm
You'll need to change to a different greeter in lightdm's config. Our default one does not have a session selection dropdown or anything like that.
Can you explain this to me and how to do it please?

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Re: How Do I Change Desktop GUI In Raspian Buster?

Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:55 am

B.Goode wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:54 pm
NosajTrah wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:16 pm
want to know how to change the GUI to something more appealing. I am still really new to Linus


It is your system, and you are free to configure it however you wish.


But as someone who is not new to Linux or unix-like Operating Systems in general, I think Raspberry Pi have done quite a good job of making their Desktop customisation accessible to beginners and productive enough for more advanced users.

Good luck in your search for something more 'appealing' while still being functional. Perhaps you would let us know what you choose?
That was perhaps a touch harsh. While mucking about with window managers is likely a good way to get a rather confused system, especially if you just start adding extra ones rather than starting with Lite, it is not the end of the world. As someone who also is "not new to Linux", I am not a big fan of LXDE. I certainly understand why they chose it, but is is rather bland and basic. I agree that it is functional, but the 4B certainly can run a heavier desktop without issue. Personally I like Mate, since that is what I currently have running on all my other Linux boxes.

The best way to get a functional OS with a different desktop is start with Raspbian Lite and build up from there. I would suggets the following as an excellent starting point:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/vie ... &t=133691

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Re: How Do I Change Desktop GUI In Raspian Buster?

Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:29 am

Hello

@bjtheone : thank you for the tutorial link (however, all "image" are missing ...)

@NosajTrah : I've just tested the following procedure to install Mate desktop

Create a fresh SDcard with 2019-07-10-raspbian-buster-lite
Console login, take care to the keyboard layout which is "uk"
User pi Password raspberry (to be changed as soon as possible)
Update
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
Install mate
sudo apt-get install mate-core mate-desktop-environment
Install network manager and blueman
sudo apt install network-manager network-manager-gnome blueman
sudo apt purge openresolv dhcpcd5 bluealsa
Install lightdm
sudo apt-get install lightdm
Change keyboard for login (example with fr)
sudo localectl --no-convert set-x11-keymap fr
Change mode to desktop
sudo raspi-config => boot options
Reboot
sudo reboot
Change overscan
uncomment #disable_overscan=1 in /boot/config.txt
Change mousepoll
add usbhid.mousepoll=0 at the end of the line in /boot/cmdline.txt

Starting from a Lite Raspbian, I found the result very limited.
There's not even an Application Manager to add easily what we need
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Pulsar33
Pi 4 with 4Gb memory, DVB TV pHAT ------------------- Desktop : Core i5 Linux MINT 19.2

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