objectprogr
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Increase the wifi range

Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:40 pm

Hi,
I`m a beginner use a Raspberry pi 3. I want to Increase the wifi range. If I use this https://www.ebay.it/itm/Antenna-Nano-Mi ... Swo4pYHD8F will this improve my wifi range? Or maybe it's better to use a different way?

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Re: Increase the wifi range

Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:54 pm

I would go with a higher gain antenna, like this unit.
https://www.ebay.it/itm/Wireless-WiFi-A ... 0005.m1851

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Re: Increase the wifi range

Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:49 pm

The tiny antenna on the 3B is pretty feeble but was never intended to be used at longer distances. It is a real convenience if your 3B is near to the Access Point. The mini-wifi dongles as you cited, are marginally better but for a USB dongle on a 3B, it is hard to beat the dongles with a full size antenna such as the Panda PAU06. Not much more money than the little guys but size really does matter when it comes to antennas. It is all about capture area.

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Re: Increase the wifi range

Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:11 pm

So the antenna that the colleague recommended would be a better choice?
https://www.ebay.it/itm/Wireless-WiFi-A ... 0005.m1851

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Re: Increase the wifi range

Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:53 pm

Yes, but you will need to connect it to the Pi's WiFi. Other options would include getting a WiFi Extender or a USB WiFi dongle that has a jack for attaching an external antenna and a compatible antenna.
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Re: Increase the wifi range

Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:05 pm

gkaiseril wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:53 pm
Yes, but you will need to connect it to the Pi's WiFi. Other options would include getting a WiFi Extender or a USB WiFi dongle that has a jack for attaching an external antenna and a compatible antenna.
The linked item is a USB WiFi dongle with external antenna.

Attaching an external antenna to the Pi's onboard WiFi will invalidate the regulatory approval in most places.
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Re: Increase the wifi range

Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:17 pm

That is why I also provided additional options.
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Re: Increase the wifi range

Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:41 pm

Longer range antennas suck as well as blow...if your neighbor can hear you interfering with his system, you can probably hear him as well on yours. So more power and bigger antennas work with limitations but the sword cuts both ways. I live in a rural area and my nearest neighbor is over 600' away. A visitor comes once in a while with a high powered outdoor system that I can scan but not receive well. I normally run on 2.4G ch 1 so it is not a big deal for me but the full-size dipole antenna I scabbed on my RPi 3 does keep my wifi speeds up on the downstairs router. Out in the sticks, "Uncle Charlie" is unlikely to be a problem. Ham-fisted soldering on an RPi board is the biggest issue. For optimum security, speed and reliability, very little beats ethernet.

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Re: Increase the wifi range

Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:05 pm

i have done this easy hack a few times

the link is to my own webpage

http://webx.dk/oz2cpu/raspberry_player/ ... _range.htm

it really helps the RP3 range, to 2-3 rooms down the hall, as any thing normal wifi stuff.
But if your geek room is the same as where your router is located, you dont need this hack.
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Re: Increase the wifi range

Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:45 pm

Wow - that looks quite a simple mod

Obviously completely invalidates the Pi3 WiFi certification and prob not going to be worht $$$ over just getting a dongle with an external antenna but very interesting :)

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Re: Increase the wifi range

Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:13 am

one should always choose the method that suits need and skils,
I wanted to keep all usb ports free, and no trouble with drivers and settings,
and since soldering stuff like this is super easy for me, that is the way I go.
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Re: Increase the wifi range

Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:41 pm

oz2cpu wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:13 am
one should always choose the method that suits need and skils,
I wanted to keep all usb ports free, and no trouble with drivers and settings,
and since soldering stuff like this is super easy for me, that is the way I go.
Just don't be surprised when the Men in Black come knocking on your door. Especially now they know who you are.
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Re: Increase the wifi range

Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:31 pm

davidcoton wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:05 pm
gkaiseril wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:53 pm
Yes, but you will need to connect it to the Pi's WiFi. Other options would include getting a WiFi Extender or a USB WiFi dongle that has a jack for attaching an external antenna and a compatible antenna.
The linked item is a USB WiFi dongle with external antenna.

Attaching an external antenna to the Pi's onboard WiFi will invalidate the regulatory approval in most places.
Fortunately, with us being users and not manufacturers, we're not required to seek regulatory approval.

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Re: Increase the wifi range

Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:36 pm

johnfreeman wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:31 pm
Fortunately, with us being users and not manufacturers, we're not required to seek regulatory approval.
Change "not required to seek regulatory approval" to "not able to seek..."

Beyond that, I suspect that messing about with WiFi is forboten in most parts of the world, especially if you are mucking around with the broadcast side of things. Now the likelihood on the said men in black knocking on your door very much depends on where you live, how close your neighbours are, and the enthusiasm with which you broadcast. What you can do is often very different from what is legal to do, and what is ethical to do.

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Re: Increase the wifi range

Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:37 pm

bjtheone wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:36 pm
johnfreeman wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:31 pm
Fortunately, with us being users and not manufacturers, we're not required to seek regulatory approval.
Change "not required to seek regulatory approval" to "not able to seek..."

Beyond that, I suspect that messing about with WiFi is forboten in most parts of the world, especially if you are mucking around with the broadcast side of things. Now the likelihood on the said men in black knocking on your door very much depends on where you live, how close your neighbours are, and the enthusiasm with which you broadcast. What you can do is often very different from what is legal to do, and what is ethical to do.
^ This. If your signal causes interference for your neighbors in ANY way, they may contact your local regulatory agency. You won't like the results when they come calling. (It does, also, to some extent depend on the electronics sophistication of said neighbors, but counting on them lacking sufficient savvy to figure things out is not a bet I'd want to make.)

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Re: Increase the wifi range

Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:50 pm

johnfreeman wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:31 pm
davidcoton wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:05 pm
gkaiseril wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:53 pm
Yes, but you will need to connect it to the Pi's WiFi. Other options would include getting a WiFi Extender or a USB WiFi dongle that has a jack for attaching an external antenna and a compatible antenna.
The linked item is a USB WiFi dongle with external antenna.

Attaching an external antenna to the Pi's onboard WiFi will invalidate the regulatory approval in most places.
Fortunately, with us being users and not manufacturers, we're not required to seek regulatory approval.
The whole point of type approval (granted to manufacturers after rigorous testing) is that end users need no further approval to operate the said equipment in its unmodified form. Any modification means operating outside the approved conditions, which is potentially illegal in most countries and frequently antisocial.
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