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PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:20 pm

If i purchase the PI3 and i have wheezy on an sd card how will i get that to work? Will it work automatically? That's my only concern because i have no plans to upgrade to Jessie now.

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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:24 pm

mathboy4life wrote:If i purchase the PI3 and i have wheezy on an sd card how will i get that to work? Will it work automatically? That's my only concern because i have no plans to upgrade to Jessie now.
AFAIAA there is no ARMv8 Kernel in Wheezy, though the best way is to to update Wheezy on your older RPi, then put it in the RPi 3B and see what happens....

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sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo rpi-update
sudo reboot
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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:25 pm

you will need the latest firmware

now is the time to upgrade as wheezy is BEOL

so start with a new sdcard and embrace the new.
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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:30 pm

I'll have to stick with the PI 2 because I have custom applications that only works for Raspbian Wheezy.
Hopefully some one can confirm that this works.

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo rpi-update
sudo reboot

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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:36 pm

you may get away with

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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo rpi-update
sudo reboot
after a backup

or rebuild your custom apps ;)

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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:39 pm

RaTTuS wrote:you may get away with

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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo rpi-update
sudo reboot
after a backup

or rebuild your custom apps ;)

[edit]
oops missed fruit's post
Do you have me hidden ? as you appear to miss my posts in various threads ??
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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:00 pm

I think we just reply at the same rate.... ;)
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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:01 pm

RaTTuS wrote:I think we just reply at the same rate.... ;)
9 minutes ???????
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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:07 pm

our first two on this thread come at the same time [well yours before mine] then when I added the apt-get stuff I realized you had already posted that on the first one
too many windows open is my excuse :cry:
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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:10 pm

RaTTuS wrote:you may get away with

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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo rpi-update
sudo reboot
So far I can report that this does NOT work. I just get the rainbow square. The green led sends MORSE: - - - - . . . . (dash dash dash dash dot dot dot dot (pause) )

UPDATE: I thought I had upgraded to Jessie, but this is still running weezy. Working on the upgrade now....

UPDATE2: I have upgraded to Jessie, still the same: RPI3 will not boot.
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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:33 pm

Unfortunately looking at the apt repo, is looking like last raspberrypi-bootloader package release for Wheezy was on the 20th December 2015. It didn't receive the 2 releases in early February, nor did it receive the Raspberry Pi 3 version yesterday (29th February). It looks like Raspberry Pi have decided to no longer upgrade the firmware for Wheezy which I will admit it a shame.
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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:45 pm

mathboy4life wrote:I'll have to stick with the PI 2 because I have custom applications that only works for Raspbian Wheezy.
Colour me intrigued. What apps could you have that don't work on Jessie?
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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:46 pm

rew wrote: So far I can report that this does NOT work. I just get the rainbow square. The green led sends MORSE: - - - - . . . . (dash dash dash dash dot dot dot dot (pause) )
It's not morse. It's the GPU telling you what's missing or can't be loaded.
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=58151 tells us it's start.elf missing or incompatible with the hardware.
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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:46 pm

jamesh wrote:
mathboy4life wrote:I'll have to stick with the PI 2 because I have custom applications that only works for Raspbian Wheezy.
Colour me intrigued. What apps could you have that don't work on Jessie?
I'll have to reconfigure a lot of things and that's hours of work.

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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:19 pm

mathboy4life wrote:
jamesh wrote:
mathboy4life wrote:I'll have to stick with the PI 2 because I have custom applications that only works for Raspbian Wheezy.
Colour me intrigued. What apps could you have that don't work on Jessie?
I'll have to reconfigure a lot of things and that's hours of work.
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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:01 pm

Awesome there is hope :D

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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:16 pm

mathboy4life wrote:Awesome there is hope :D
Yes maybe, but I will not get my RPi3 until tomorrow to see if Wheezy works.....
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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:20 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:
mathboy4life wrote:Awesome there is hope :D
Yes maybe, but I will not get my RPi3 until tomorrow to see if Wheezy works.....
I have installed Raspbian Wheezy using a RPi 2B and update / dist-upgrade / rpi-update and works as expected.

Put the SD Card in a RPi 3B and yes it booted, but no support for on-board Wireless and Bluetooth out of the box, so yes it works but feel Wheezy has hit the buffers in terms of up to date packages available.

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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:22 pm

Thanks it should be easy to install the drivers for the wifi/bluetooth chipset.

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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:54 am

Hey Fruity did you found a way to install the WiFi chipset on Wheezy?

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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:34 am

jamesh wrote:
mathboy4life wrote:I'll have to stick with the PI 2 because I have custom applications that only works for Raspbian Wheezy.
Colour me intrigued. What apps could you have that don't work on Jessie?
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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:18 am

mathboy4life wrote:Hey Fruity did you found a way to install the WiFi chipset on Wheezy?
I used Wheezy as an experiment to see if it would boot up, it does on a Standalone .IMG, not sure about NOOBS install though.

I was not interested in trying to install missing drivers / network / Bluetooth as Jessie .IMG I knew would "work out of the box"
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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:53 pm

Production Releases

Version
Based on this list Wheezy should have approx 2 years of life left in her.. It is not BEOL.

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Release date
End of life date
8.0
Jessie
April 25th 2015
7.0
Wheezy
May 4th 2013
6.0
Squeeze
February 6th 2011
February 2016 (LTS)

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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:03 pm

Jessie just came out couple months ago and I don't see how the rpf can say it's end of life for Wheezy. :shock: There should be an update for wheezy at least tell 2017. I cant see how there is no recent update to Wheezy.

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Re: PI 3 and Raspbian Wheezy

Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:24 pm

mathboy4life wrote:Jessie just came out couple months ago and I don't see how the rpf can say it's end of life for Wheezy. :shock: There should be an update for wheezy at least tell 2017. I cant see how there is no recent update to Wheezy.
Incorrect:

Raspbian Jessie was released in September 2015 https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspbi ... ie-is-here

Debian Jessie was released April 2015

Debian Wheezy on which Raspbian is based goes into Community Support April 2016

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS

FYI there have been updates to the kernel/firmware and security issues addressed if needed ;)


Last but not least Jessie going to SystemD caused a lot of work and going forward most RPi OSes will have SystemD so IMPO the RPF made the correct decision........
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