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Technicals questions any good soul to help me Please ? Thx

Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:45 pm

Hi Folks,
I am getting some trouble doubts with the Retropie Project, This Project who can install a Snes and other retro consoles emulator.

I have some technicals questions, The retropie is under a optimized Linux version if i’m not wrong now: I wanted to do on my own a small arcade machine with a 15″ screen, for the controllers I thought maybe buying a cheap snes usb control plugged in one of the usb ports and hard soldering the joystick and all the bottoms on the controller board would work riiiight ?. This is my first question, I was thinking to use the Raspberry Pi with Retropie off course easier because is made for it or literally buy on ebay a snes and hard solder the buttons etc but than I noticed I would have a problem to plug this monitor I was planing to buy and play properly with a good image and fluid or even if I mannage how would I do for the buttons The Power and reset :/ The monitor: http://www.ebay.de/itm/TFT-Display-Fuji ... 4897.l4275

Actually I’m scared that the tiny 700hz processor from raspberry Pi wouldn’t manage properly even If I overclook to 1Mhz and ventilate the machine with a passive or active cooler.
Coincidently Some Months ago I bought one of dose android dongles with a dual core processor at 1.4 mhz but its on a android system and I guess not made for those things, I read somewhere and from my own experience that android are quite good for changes and flexibles Not like iOs or other system, I was wondering would I had any way to try to put the retropie system on one of those little dongles like literally take out somehow android and put this modified linux, that I just plug the power on my arcade cabine turn on and bam straight to my snes games selection menu ? because Installing a emulator on the android would always need to slide to the application and etc. and I wouldn’t wan’t to have any thing to do, just power on boot and play. I think it would be cheaper because I then wouldn’t need to buy a raspberry pi yet,

I am really open I and thankfully for any comment in advance Luca


Edit: I saw this little guy here and a bonus its that the display is on vga, https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXi ... e-hardware

Would this one be better instead ? Thanks

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Re: Technicals questions any good soul to help me Please ? T

Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:19 pm

pepslight
‘The retropie is under a optimized Linux version if i’m not wrong’
Sort of! RetroPie is the RPi version of RetroArch , the cross-platform portable, modular, multisystem emulator utilising an EmulationStation Front End (GUI). It is built on Raspbian Wheezy the RPi optimised version of the Linux Debian Operating System.

‘Actually I’m scared that the tiny 700hz processor from raspberry Pi wouldn’t manage properly’
Well, I have been very impressed with what the RPi is capable of in regards to emulation especially with optimisation combined with some overclocking of the hardware. Although the ARM processor is not particularly powerful the Broadcom SOC (‘System on a Chip’) has a good GPU, a combination which in is some cases (Video Media, emulators) outperforms other similar devices (e.g. BeagleBone Black, many Andriod based ‘Dongle’ computers etc.). To see what is possible on the RPi from an emulation stance See Here - http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewt ... 78&t=54357

‘I read somewhere and from my own experience that android are quite good for changes and flexibles Not like iOs’
That’s definitely true! Many Linux based Operating Systems are ‘Open Source’ allowing users access to develop and/or modify the code from its original design, whereas iOS and Windows are ‘Closed Source’, basically the complete opposite! Andriod based ‘Dongle’ devices are less ‘accessible’ being that only very competent users/developers can produce aps/programs, the RPi provides a complete Operating System that acts as a fully usable computer so everyone can get involved and learn.

‘just plug the power on my arcade cabine turn on and bam straight to my snes games selection menu ?’
Yes this is all possible, either with a ‘pre built’ SD Card Image like RetroPie (See the Thread above, others are available) or by building your own using emulators along with a Front End.

Hope that helps!
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Re: Technicals questions any good soul to help me Please ? T

Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:00 pm

Hi welshy Thank you so much for an answer, So actually what in your opinion would be the best for my project ? I after read your answer I was thinking to buy a pie and put a good snes emulator from your list, but than I would need help, I don't know which one is the best from this huge list would you have an idea recommendation ? Thank you

Edit; Actually after thinking a bit more I was just thinking to buy a snes on ebay and a 15" aproximatly tv With s-video input, Than I would mount inside the tv (hopefully not cathodic, could be fun havier so can put more strengh and nerve on the controls looks more solid :lol: ) and the snes .
I would extend the power cable and cut the slide 2 pins button in the end of the cable and put a more appropriate something like this http://www.reichelt.de/Switches-Rocker/ ... +1555.3104 I don't know if it would work to just open the snes and cut at the end of the red and black cable and sold this one instead. Now for the control I would plug on the snes one control and hard solder on the board the joystick and all the bottons, inside the cabin I put a cable extension making on a sort to have only one cabble getting out, any one have a clue if something like that would work ? and if everything would work if if: doest it exist any kind of universal cartrigde ? I explain: like a cartridge with a kind of sd card were I can put old rooms in and play all without the need to have bilions of old cartridges ??? Thanks a lot all

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Re: Technicals questions any good soul to help me Please ? T

Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:57 pm

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'I explain: like a cartridge with a kind of sd card were I can put old rooms in and play all without the need to have bilions of old cartridges ???'
Yes, devices such as this are available for a variety of systems such as the 'EverDrive' See Here - http://www.retrotowers.co.uk/index.php? ... ry&path=79
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Re: Technicals questions any good soul to help me Please ? T

Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:11 pm

Hi welshy thanks again, Actually after seein all those linkers I was literally chocked how expensive they are, I saw this one :shock: from america http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-NINTENDO-SN ... 19e3f19c5f :D Would this one be compatible with my snes pal that I was planing to buy ? are this pal ntsc thing ?

Otherwise I would just jump to the pie I really don't know now would need some advice please thanks

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Re: Technicals questions any good soul to help me Please ? T

Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:27 pm

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It should be ok due to the fact the base hardware in a SNES powers the output (its not software dependant as are newer consoles). However, I have not heard of the Cart in your link, EverDrive's are used by many Retro Game enthusiasts and have a good name/recognition, as yours will be 'hidden' there is no real need for a 'Cart' a board version would suffice and states it works with PAL or NTSC Consoles

See Here - http://www.retrotowers.co.uk/super-ever ... cuit-board

Given the costs involved and the fact you would be limited in emulation to SNES only, it may be more cost effective (definitely more flexible) to purchase a RPi instead for your Project!
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Re: Technicals questions any good soul to help me Please ? T

Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:40 pm

all right thank you again welsh I will effectly because of cost jump to the Rpi to play hopefully mario zelda and star fox. Would you have maybe a advice which one is the best emulator ?

I was loking as well for fake clones snes consoles with some games but I wasn't very successful to find one... :mrgreen:

Thanks again peps

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Re: Technicals questions any good soul to help me Please ? T

Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:11 pm

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In my opinion puddings PiSNES is the best SNES emulator on the RPi, however as its based on an older version of snes9x it WONT play Super Fx Games (StarFox/Wing).The RetroArch PocketSNES Core will play Starfox/Wing but not at a realistically acceptable frame rate.
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Re: Technicals questions any good soul to help me Please ? T

Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:14 pm

Gona go for it thank you very much, And the retro pie would play like all the games no so good ? :lol: thx

EDIT: Just last little question if you ok would be a much bigger deference between the model a or b ? than the memory ? thx

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