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SteamOS

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:06 pm
by SpartanJ59
So SteamOS was just announced and the page sais "You can play all your Windows and Mac games on your SteamOS machine, too. Just turn on your existing computer and run Steam as you always have - then your SteamOS machine can stream those games over your home network straight to your TV!" now taking this info, would it ever be possible to stream it off of a Raspberry Pi because it also mentions that "In SteamOS, we have achieved significant performance increases in graphics processing, and we’re now targeting audio performance and reductions in input latency at the operating system level." I wonder what could happen here.

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:55 am
by SirLagz
Doubtful.
I read it as Stream from one X86 box to another X86 box

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:57 am
by Jessie
I guess it will first depend on SteamOS having an ARM build. Then it would have to be compatable with the R Pi's particular ARM core and GPU. Which isn't likely, barring all that, the performance would have to be up to snuff. I'm sure it could be done with the right minds on the task, but will that happen?

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:27 am
by SpartanJ59
Well the new OS has a streaming feature, wouldn't that mean that the computer will be doing all the work and the visuals will show up through the Pi and on to your Television?

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:19 am
by Oakham
SpartanJ59 wrote:Well the new OS has a streaming feature, wouldn't that mean that the computer will be doing all the work and the visuals will show up through the Pi and on to your Television?
http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewt ... 63&t=17576


Supposedly Steam OS is built on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, so the Pi is out as Ubuntu abandoned ARMEL and ARMHF

Though there is nothing to stop you compiling a Debian ARMHF port, will wait for your efforts :roll:


"Theoretically" it should work, but as was said will not know to someone undertakes the task !

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/who-wants-s ... 17588.html

"How well this functionality works will depend on a number of factors: the power of your gaming rig and laptop, the system resources required by SteamOS, your Internet speed and your Wi-Fi reliability. Still, if the OS is as slick as Valve has promised, even modest systems could stream content without too much trouble."

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:51 pm
by 4thdwarflord
SteamOS website:
With SteamOS, “openness” means that the hardware industry can iterate in the living room at a much faster pace than they’ve been able to...
...Users can alter or replace any part of the software or hardware they want...
...SteamOS will be available soon as a free download for users and as a freely licensable operating system for manufacturers. Stay tuned in the coming days for more information.
This is what I see in the SteamOS site, the bits about “openness”. There is nothing to suggest it is impossible.

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:17 pm
by Oakham
..but until someone tries it and publishes results one will never know, who is going to volunteer to compile Steam OS for the Pi rather than blowing hot air ??

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:33 pm
by jamesh
Oakham wrote:..but until someone tries it and publishes results one will never know, who is going to volunteer to compile Steam OS for the Pi rather than blowing hot air ??
I volunteer....You!

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:35 pm
by Oakham
jamesh wrote:
Oakham wrote:..but until someone tries it and publishes results one will never know, who is going to volunteer to compile Steam OS for the Pi rather than blowing hot air ??
I volunteer....You!
Not a developer or programmer am I, sorry :cry:

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:25 pm
by OtherCrashOverride
Oakham wrote:who is going to volunteer to compile Steam OS for the Pi rather than blowing hot air ??
There is nothing to be gained by the effort. The performance improvements are in the open source graphics drivers from Intel (OpenGL has not changed). The game selection on Steam is for x86.

When/if the streaming client source code is released, it may be possible to port that. But the latency introduced by the Pi h264 decoder would probably make it unsuitable for real-time games (shooters).

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:56 am
by 4thdwarflord
Oakham wrote:..but until someone tries it and publishes results one will never know, who is going to volunteer to compile Steam OS for the Pi rather than blowing hot air ??
I will!

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:40 pm
by 4thdwarflord
Been doing some research...
Steam Machines site:
Can I download the OS to try it out?
You will be able to download it (including the source code, if you're into that) but not yet.
Things are looking more and more like it is... possible.

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:22 am
by wai0004
Yes, but could it be possible to create a compatible open-source version from scratch for the pi?

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:09 pm
by 4thdwarflord
Why make it from scratch if they are giving away the source code?

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:30 am
by ReBoot
OtherCrashOverride wrote: When/if the streaming client source code is released, it may be possible to port that. But the latency introduced by the Pi h264 decoder would probably make it unsuitable for real-time games (shooters).
Can you explain that? How is a Hardware Decoder supposed to introduce notable latency?

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:23 pm
by ReBoot
FYI guys: the idea can be concidered dead. Steam is a blob in SteamOS.

Re: SteamOS

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:04 pm
by ulysess
I think the only way would be streaming the desktop from Linux PC to RPi.