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krisnation2000
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Is it the samething as the website?

Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:31 am

Does scratch do the same thing the website does?

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Re: Is it the samething as the website?

Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:04 am

Hello,

the scratch website http://scratch.mit.edu features a flash based version of scratch version 2. On raspberry, you have scratch version 1.4, based on smalltalk(squeak).
The flash based version 2 does not run on raspberry, and this version does not allow to connect to hardware.
Version 1.4 runs on raspberry, and there are clients to connect to hardware.

Version 2 is a slightly enhanced version. But imho for most projects version 1.4 is well suited.

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Gerhard

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Re: Is it the samething as the website?

Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:08 pm

As Gerhard said, the Scratch supplied on the Pi is a version 1.4 system (but with a lot of performance enhancements) and does what 1.4 does. The web-based v2 system does very much the same but with a couple of extras and, of course, in a web browser. And obviously, not on a Pi due to the lack of Flash.

If people ask for it, there is a good chance I'll get to make the Pi system v2 equivalent. Right now though the emphasis is on
a) getting the i18n stuff up to scratch( ouch!)
b) making it much faster.
c) making gpio related stuff even cooler
Making Smalltalk on ARM since 1986; making your Scratch better since 2012

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krisnation2000
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Is it the samething as the website? [SOLVED!]

Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:44 pm

I downloaded scratch 1.4 on my windows pc, and i can now make what i want for my raspberry pi! I did it! :D

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Re: Is it the samething as the website?

Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:53 pm

Even more cool:
you can run scratch 1.4 on win pc, and a hardware client (e.g. my scratchClient software) on RPi. Connection is by network. Best of both worlds.

The only not so cool point in this setup: the upcoming lightning fast scratch is in some areas even faster than my win pc. To be honest: there are exceptions.

Regards,
Gerhard

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Re: Is it the samething as the website? [SOLVED!]

Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:51 am

krisnation2000 wrote:I downloaded scratch 1.4 on my windows pc, and i can now make what i want for my raspberry pi! I did it! :D
Congratulations - and if you notice anything that works differently on the two systems do please tell me. Aside from small font differences that are inevitable across different rendering engines there really ought not be any.
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