wkulesza
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Could someone from Broadcom post here on GPU support ?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:45 am

Hey,
it's been almost 3 months from the date of the post that Broadcom has an internal version of Android running with hardware accelleration for GPU.
Since then, there has only be roumors, speculations and no official news. I understand its also licensing issues and most probably it wont be open source.
But, for the sake of many, many (including one of ours) projects, that are on hold simply because of this problem, could anyone from Broadcom or associated, let us everybody know IF this will be released or not? Keeping everybody uncertain does not help the Raspberry Pi community to grow.

Thanks
Wojciech Kulesza

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Re: Could someone from Broadcom post here on GPU support ?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:02 am

I'm investigating. As far as I know things are still ongoing.

Meanwhile, if you have put of purchasing a Pi because of lack of Android support...why? It's fun even without Android!!!!
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Re: Could someone from Broadcom post here on GPU support ?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:11 am

jamesh: i haven't! it is fun, im using it everyday with raspbmc on for my home entertainment. better than television!
i have a small company and android on raspberry would allow me to introduce a digital signage system tailored at public transport buses. I already have a 22 inch screens in vandal-proof metal cases, equipped with 24V voltage, power converters, usb hubs, GPS on usb and a place to put my rasbperry with android on SD card, so that's why im eager to know if I wait a bit longer, or put something else in (but i guess raspberry would work better with GPS on usb and 3g modem than a 'standard' Android stick

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Sell Android?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:39 pm

May be you can just sell Android accelerated drivers same way as MPEG 2 codec? I think $15 would be OK.

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Re: Could someone from Broadcom post here on GPU support ?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:03 pm

@wkulesza
Perhaps you can use Qt for that ? AFAIK there are devs only working on the
QtonPi project.

@kolk
Nice idea ! But i think even for 10 $ Broadcom would fare well.


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Re: Could someone from Broadcom post here on GPU support ?

Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:41 pm

It's not a question of giving anyone any money I don't think - it's a question of actually getting it all to work! It's not finished yet, which is why the drivers are not released yet. I know this, because I am working on Android camera stuff right now!
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Re: Could someone from Broadcom post here on GPU support ?

Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:35 pm

jamesh wrote:It's not a question of giving anyone any money I don't think - it's a question of actually getting it all to work! It's not finished yet, which is why the drivers are not released yet. I know this, because I am working on Android camera stuff right now!
Eben said it was stuck in legal, i assume he was referring to getting the gpu code re-licensed,
soo we may see something soon

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Re: Could someone from Broadcom post here on GPU support ?

Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:15 pm

:D GPU Driver is released... so Android is around the corner.

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Re: Could someone from Broadcom post here on GPU support ?

Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:14 pm

Key Lime Pi, here we come.

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Re: Could someone from Broadcom post here on GPU support ?

Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:31 am

cgonzalez wrote::D GPU Driver is released... so Android is around the corner.
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Re: Could someone from Broadcom post here on GPU support ?

Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:57 pm

Gary Littlemore wrote:
cgonzalez wrote::D GPU Driver is released... so Android is around the corner.
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Its missing gralloc :(

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Re: Could someone from Broadcom post here on GPU support ?

Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:56 am

"It's not finished yet, which is why the drivers are not released yet. I know this, because I am working on Android camera stuff right now"

Does this mean the camera module being developed will work on Android?

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Re: Could someone from Broadcom post here on GPU support ?

Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:56 am

I have pretty much given up on using my RPi. Not to be a downer, but it's simply not that useful to me without a single hardware accelerated OS available. There's no hardware acceleration in X11 on Linux and I'm fairly confident that internal build of Android 4.0 they had posted video of MONTHS ago will never see the light of day. Why else haven't they mentioned a single word about it since?
Maybe it's licensing issues. Maybe the hardware support wasn't anywhere near as far along as they had claimed. Maybe it's both, or something else entirely. Periodically I check back here to see if they've finally posted the Android image, or at the very least a hardware accelerated Debian image, but I always leave disappointed.
My Nintendo Wii now fulfills the job that I had hoped to task my RPi with, and provide a cheap way of getting videos, photos and music from my living room HTPC to the TV in the other room.
I do understand that the RPi was intended as an inexpensive computer for children to learn how to program on, but I tried letting my kids use it and the only thing they ever managed to do was crash it. OVER AND OVER AND OVER. Besides, I'd venture to guess that the vast majority of Pi owners exclusively want to use it as a cheap media streaming device.
My RPi is sadly sitting wrapped back up in an ESD bag in a desk drawer, woefully waiting for the day that a decent OS will be released for it with proper hardware support, something that I have a feeling may never actually happen.

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Re: Could someone from Broadcom post here on GPU support ?

Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:05 am

Are you running the latest software ?
Anyway , why don't you sell it ? Or lend it to somebody who can give the Pi a purpose ?
There might be board revisions on the future anyway.


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Re: Could someone from Broadcom post here on GPU support ?

Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:21 am

SimplyRyan wrote: My Nintendo Wii now fulfills the job that I had hoped to task my RPi with, and provide a cheap way of getting videos, photos and music from my living room HTPC to the TV in the other room.
Did you try any of the XBMC distributions to fulfill that role?

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