Need Android on RasPi HELP

[TheKkilo]

Hi,

I have a berry boot with "whezzy" and xbmc !

I want a version (any) of android for navigate with opera mobile with adobe flash player.

I want a android for see TV streaming !

If u are any ideia please comment.

Thanks and keep going !

[bredman]

You are very unlikely to get Flash working. Adobe (the owner of Flash) is actively trying to kill it off. If you did get it to work, the performance would be terrible without GPU support.

There are lots of other options to watch internet TV on the RPi. XBMC has plugins for most of the popular internet TV streaming services. Search this forum for "TV catchup" for examples.

[aaa801]

Right, firstly the guy above me doesn't seem to have a clue about android.
Secondly, flash on the pi is available with android,
Thirdly, The current builds of android have no sound and no acceleration
This is only temporary as we are waiting for broadcom to release the drivers

[jamesh]

Right, firstly the guy above me doesn't seem to have a clue about android.
Secondly, flash on the pi is available with android,
Thirdly, The current builds of android have no sound and no acceleration
This is only temporary as we are waiting for broadcom to release the drivers

Keep it polite please. The performance is, indeed, terrible without GPU support, as with much of Android without GPU support. Not sure of the schedule for release of the Android drivers, we are still working on them.

[6677]

Actually adobe pulled flash off of the google play store last week, its no longer available on android. Flash is closed source too so you can't just port it yourself.

Also the current android for pi builds don't have google play in the first place (google play technically isn't free software, the cost for that is part of your phone handset, I doubt broadcom or the foundation have licensed it on the pi so we aren't going to be getting it). So even if flash was available it would be unobtainable (legally, yes it is possible to pirate supposedly free software), theres no android downloads for it on the adobe website.

[aaa801]

Actually adobe pulled flash off of the google play store last week, its no longer available on android. Flash is closed source too so you can't just port it yourself.

Also the current android for pi builds don't have google play in the first place (google play technically isn't free software, the cost for that is part of your phone handset, I doubt broadcom or the foundation have licensed it on the pi so we aren't going to be getting it). So even if flash was available it would be unobtainable (legally, yes it is possible to pirate supposedly free software), theres no android downloads for it on the adobe website.

First off, you can find that apk prety dam easily, and gapps are flashable just like any other app..

[bredman]

If you want to use your Raspberry Pi for TV or Youtube streaming, see the instructions on page 12 of issue 5 of the free MagPi magazine
www.themagpi.com

[6677]

First off, you can find that apk prety dam easily, and gapps are flashable just like any other app..

Note I said legally. Downloading the apk from 3rd parties is outside of the EULA for flash so is not legal and I think discussion of piracy on forums is both bad practice and usually against forum rules.

And adobe have made it available on google play TEMPORARILY again:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19428902
I believe its to give other apps a chance to be updated so they no longer need flash (tbh the only app I've ever had that needed it was the bbc iplayer app).

Apps from the market are flashable like any other app yes but without the market in the first place how are you going to get them anyway. And going along with the point I made above where are you going to get google play from.


Some of the free apps if you visit their websites will give a direct download which will most likely work on the pi of course. And seeming as its been mentioned already theres 3rd party sites of dubious legality....

[TheKkilo]

Sorry but i can't find a add-on for streamming TV on my country !

I am in Portugal !

[6677]

Being in portugal makes no difference. Portugals internet isn't censored yet so you have access to the same stuff we do.

[bobpuffer]

So... really looking for making my pi usable for Amazon VOD and Netflix. Seems like that's gonna require android and it seems like the preponderance of reliable data re: that project is nearly nil.

[aaa801]

Piracy of a free product, thats a new one..

[MadHorseman]

Being in portugal makes no difference. Portugals internet isn't censored yet so you have access to the same stuff we do.

I can get the "products" but without an IP changing service I can't access a lot of the "services" - "not available in your country"....(Portugal!)

[ghans]

@ aaa801

Perhaps you can pirate gratis software , but you can not pirate free software.

ghans

[UseLinuxNotWindows]

It would be perfectly possible to post LightSpark (http://allievi.sssup.it/techblog/?p=773 ) to Android - something I might have a look at doing myself (https://github.com/lightspark/lightspark/issues/209 ). LightSpark is open source - so can be used whether or not Adobe want to support Android - for free and without restrictive licensing clauses. Gnash (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ ) can already be compiled for Android but is not packaged nicely yet (http://wiki.gnashdev.org/Building_for_Android ).

[ghans]

The problem is compability and updates .
I'm pretty sure they'll never catch up on DRM features or the release cycle of
the plugins. And anyway , we know all how usable gnash without HW acceleration
on the Pi currently is.

ghans

[UseLinuxNotWindows]

Unlike Gnash, LightSpark IS hardware accelerated (through OpenGL and OpenGL-ES would be possible) and can play back YouTube, BBC iPlayer and many flash applications.

https://github.com/lightspark/lightspar ... te-Support

Admittedly it is work in progress but LightSpark is very impressive and the code is very portable. Experimental Adobe AIR support has been added and if this could be improved then I can see LightSpark being shipped with many Linux distributions. Obviously the elephant in the room is HTML5 and this has the potential to eliminate the need for flash in the short-to-medium term. At the moment though HTML5 is encumbered by restricted and patent encumbered thanks (in the main) to MPEG-LA, Technicolor-SA and similar patent-troll-like organisations.

[jamesh]

There are two parts to accelerating flash - the vector animation side (OpenVG) and the video side. You would need to write some sort of OpenMAX backend to accelerate the video side - it's not done using OpenVG/GLES.

[ghans]

It's almost like someone wants us to fail in making flash usable on the Pi ...
its a conspiracy ! Well , now we at least know what has to be done.


ghans

[tufty]

Perhaps you can pirate gratis software , but you can not pirate free software.

Actually, you can. What we're talking about here is violation of licensing terms and copyrights, both of which can be done to both "free as in beer" and "free as in freedom" software. It is most certainly possible to "pirate" GPLed software, and a significant number of (not only, but largely) Chinese manufacturers releasing Android devices do this on a regular basis.

In fact, about the only thing you can't violate copyrights and licensing terms on is code that has been (either deliberately or not, ask AT&T about that) released into the public domain.

Simon

[6677]

Perhaps you can pirate gratis software , but you can not pirate free software.

Actually, you can. What we're talking about here is violation of licensing terms and copyrights, both of which can be done to both "free as in beer" and "free as in freedom" software. It is most certainly possible to "pirate" GPLed software, and a significant number of (not only, but largely) Chinese manufacturers releasing Android devices do this on a regular basis.

In fact, about the only thing you can't violate copyrights and licensing terms on is code that has been (either deliberately or not, ask AT&T about that) released into the public domain.

Simon

This was my point. Flash may be available freely at the moment but technically getting it from a source other than adobe conflicts with copyright and piracy laws as that is outside of the EULA.

[kunhadi]

Flash works up to Android 4.0.xx

says in the Google Play

FLASH PLAYER WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED ON ANY ANDROID VERSION BEYOND ANDROID 4.0.xx

[6677]

Flash works up to Android 4.0.xx

says in the Google Play

FLASH PLAYER WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED ON ANY ANDROID VERSION BEYOND ANDROID 4.0.xx

Its also not available legally outside of google play. Google play for legal reasons won't be included on the pi (android may be open source but the store software isn't, your handset manufacturer pays in order to have play on your device). Adobe say they are pulling flash soon aswell (they already did for 1 week but then realised that it broke a few apps, most of which are now moving away from using flash in preparation).

[Ray_GTI-R]

Anyway - to get back on-topic, Posted July 31, 2012 by eben:- Android 4.0 is coming!
(http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1700 ... archives, eh? Hmmm).

It's 4 months later chapesses & chaps.
What's the morning glory, please?