emmar
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Old Chromium Version

Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:47 pm

The Chromium version in Raspbian is 22.0.1229.94 which, I believe, was released in 2012. There have been a lot of changes in CSS and HTML since then, and I would really like to be able to use Raspbian and a recent-ish version of Chromium.

I've read several postings about the fact that the Chromium version is very outdated, but it doesn't seem like anyone is talking about actually updating the package. I don't know if it is even possible to update it, but it would be great if anyone could give me some insight into this issue.

Is this just something I could fix with a feature request? Is there even a way to do a feature request? Is there a step-by-step guide on how to update a Raspbian package? I'm willing to put in some work, but I definitely don't know much about... this stuff, generally.

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BlackberryTart
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Re: Old Chromium Version

Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:00 pm

I haven't tried this, but it looks like it works based on the comments:
https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/q ... f-chromium
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emmar
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Re: Old Chromium Version

Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:09 am

Blackberry Tart,

I saw that one, and I (sorta) attempted it, but what I really want is what I asked in my post: is there a way to get the general repository up to date? Say I want to deploy 100 pi's. I don't want to have to download and install the old Chromium version 100 times from the repo and then alter it to the current version using this method (basically re-downloading it again) 100 times.

I feel like this is something that other users of Raspbian want, and I only see people doing these band-aid one-off solutions. I haven't seen people saying that it is impossible to update the package in the repository, but nobody seems to see it as an actual solution to this problem. If the repo was updated (or, imagine, automatically updated when a new version of Chromium came out), nobody would ever deal with this problem again.

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Re: Old Chromium Version

Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:20 am

emmar wrote:Blackberry Tart,

I saw that one, and I (sorta) attempted it, but what I really want is what I asked in my post: is there a way to get the general repository up to date? Say I want to deploy 100 pi's. I don't want to have to download and install the old Chromium version 100 times from the repo and then alter it to the current version using this method (basically re-downloading it again) 100 times.

I feel like this is something that other users of Raspbian want, and I only see people doing these band-aid one-off solutions. I haven't seen people saying that it is impossible to update the package in the repository, but nobody seems to see it as an actual solution to this problem. If the repo was updated (or, imagine, automatically updated when a new version of Chromium came out), nobody would ever deal with this problem again.
Chromium Web Browser has been virtually abandoned on the ARM Architecture (exception being Android)

http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewt ... 63&t=84848

It is to heaveyweight for the Pi anyway, that is why the RPF include the HTML5 Epiphany Web Browser in Raspbian Wheezy

So will anyone update Chromium Browser, nope ;)
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emmar
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Re: Old Chromium Version

Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:04 pm

fruitoftheloom,

Thanks for the analysis on what's going on with Chromium in regards to Raspbian. Seems like I'm riding the wrong horse :)

I was actually looking at Epiphany yesterday before I decided to make my first post, and I was a little disappointed by what I found. It's totally possible that Epiphany is a legitimate and good browser, but I couldn't find anything about getting it into kiosk mode (people actually suggested using Chromium instead for this purpose). Also, I couldn't find info about whether Epiphany is compliant with CSS3. Furthermore, it is not obvious to me whether Epiphany is going to be supported long-term or not.

Do you know more about Epiphany? Can you point me towards some better resources?

After looking at your referred post, looks like I should look into Minimal Kiosk Browser as well (still the question about long-term support, though). I can't find anything about CSS3 compliance, though. I would love to see something like caniuse.com for these two browsers...

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Re: Old Chromium Version

Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:30 pm

emmar wrote:The Chromium version in Raspbian is 22.0.1229.94
Do you mean you actually use Chromium on your Raspi? Does that work reasonably?

In my experience even the most light weight web browser responds too slow with current multi-media websites

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Re: Old Chromium Version

Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:34 pm

Minimal Kiosk Browser aka kweb should do exactly what you want and more configurable than Epiphany:

http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewt ... 60#p333125

http://css3test.com

http://html5test.com
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Re: Old Chromium Version

Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:44 pm

sander2 wrote:[
In my experience even the most light weight web browser responds too slow with current multi-media websites
Maybe, but most of these "current multi-media websites" contain lots of useless crap and they are mostly terribly designed (I'm talking about efficiency, not aesthetics).
Minimal Kiosk Browser (kweb)
Slim, fast webkit browser with support for audio+video+playlists+youtube+pdf+download
Optional fullscreen kiosk mode and command interface for embedded applications
Includes omxplayerGUI, an X front end for omxplayer

emmar
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Re: Old Chromium Version

Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:52 pm

sander2 wrote:
emmar wrote:The Chromium version in Raspbian is 22.0.1229.94
Do you mean you actually use Chromium on your Raspi? Does that work reasonably?

In my experience even the most light weight web browser responds too slow with current multi-media websites

I do use it, but not for regular browsing. It's just for one website in kiosk mode, and it takes approximately 1230897234 years to load some images, so, no, it's not reasonable for general browsing (really, it takes about a minute to load the page that I am running, but once everything is loaded, the javascript that is on a timer runs reasonably). It takes more than a minute to just open up the Chromium developer tools.

emmar
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Re: Old Chromium Version

Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:15 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:Minimal Kiosk Browser aka kweb should do exactly what you want and more configurable than Epiphany:

http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewt ... 60#p333125

http://css3test.com

http://html5test.com
Thanks. I will definitely try kweb out.

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