W. H. Heydt
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trn...or equivalent?

Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:20 pm

I checked (apt-cache search) and trn does not appear to be in the Raspbian repositories. Does anyone know of an equivalent program that is?

trejan
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Re: trn...or equivalent?

Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:50 pm

Packages for both trn 3.6 and trn 4.0-test77 are in the repo but they're not listed in the repo metadata for any of the Raspbian versions some reason.

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Re: trn...or equivalent?

Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:55 pm

trejan wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:50 pm
Packages for both trn 3.6 and trn 4.0-test77 are in the repo but they're not listed in the repo metadata for any of the Raspbian versions some reason.
How did you figure that out?

I.e., given that search doesn't reveal it, how did you know that it was there?
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Re: trn...or equivalent?

Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:07 pm

GlowInTheDark wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:55 pm
How did you figure that out?
I searched for trn using the Debian package tool and found it should be there for jessie and newer in the non-free section. I looked in the Raspbian repo for packages starting with t and found trn + trn4 there. I downloaded all the Package files and searched for trn/trn4 but found nothing.

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Re: trn...or equivalent?

Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:23 pm

Makes sense.

Incidentally, trn is (or at least was) an easy compile-it-yourself.

I know I did that once, long ago, to add some feature or other that I needed.

You just have to hunt around for the source - which isn't too hard.
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Re: trn...or equivalent?

Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:45 pm

trejan wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:50 pm
Packages for both trn 3.6 and trn 4.0-test77 are in the repo but they're not listed in the repo metadata for any of the Raspbian versions some reason.
Interesting. Any easy way to get them listed, or should I just this post asking that they be added?

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Re: trn...or equivalent?

Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:33 am

W. H. Heydt wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:45 pm
Interesting. Any easy way to get them listed, or should I just this post asking that they be added?
They're source packages so putting it into the Packages file wouldn't work. There isn't a binary for some unknown reason.

If you want to build the package then download it by reenabling the deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list then running "apt-get source trn4". Go into the trn4 directory and run "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc". If you've got the various deps installed then a .deb should appear in the parent directory. Install it like any other .deb package.

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Re: trn...or equivalent?

Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:27 am

trejan wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:33 am
W. H. Heydt wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:45 pm
Interesting. Any easy way to get them listed, or should I just this post asking that they be added?
They're source packages so putting it into the Packages file wouldn't work. There isn't a binary for some unknown reason.

If you want to build the package then download it by reenabling the deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list then running "apt-get source trn4". Go into the trn4 directory and run "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc". If you've got the various deps installed then a .deb should appear in the parent directory. Install it like any other .deb package.
Thanks for that method.

It was the binary that I was thinking to be desirable. Perhaps the maintainers of Raspbian don't think enough people would use it to make it worthwhile to include.

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Re: trn...or equivalent?

Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:55 pm

W. H. Heydt wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:27 am
It was the binary that I was thinking to be desirable. Perhaps the maintainers of Raspbian don't think enough people would use it to make it worthwhile to include.
Plugwash and the other devs probably won't see this post down here in off topic. Make a post in the Raspbian forum to have it added?

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Re: trn...or equivalent?

Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:33 pm

trejan wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:55 pm
W. H. Heydt wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:27 am
It was the binary that I was thinking to be desirable. Perhaps the maintainers of Raspbian don't think enough people would use it to make it worthwhile to include.
Plugwash and the other devs probably won't see this post down here in off topic. Make a post in the Raspbian forum to have it added?
Done.

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