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Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:59 pm
by gkreidl
Yesterday I updated to kernel, firmware etc. version 1.20190925-2 (2019-10-10 13:55)
Today there is another one: 1.20190925+1-1 (2019-10-11 14:25)

Why? Is this some kind of emergency update? Or are these the same packages with just another naming scheme?

Re: Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:06 pm
by Tikiatybme
No, it’s new, why is proble a minor bug fix that someone REALLY smart discovered and resolved overnight, yep, burning the midnight oil!

Re: Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:24 pm
by jamesh
gkreidl wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:59 pm
Yesterday I updated to kernel, firmware etc. version 1.20190925-2 (2019-10-10 13:55)
Today there is another one: 1.20190925+1-1 (2019-10-11 14:25)

Why? Is this some kind of emergency update? Or are these the same packages with just another naming scheme?
Was this with rpi-update? I wouldn't expect that on apt, but rpi-update always contains bleeding edge code, and its not on a regular update cycle it gets done when it need to be done. So if we find a nasty bug, just after its been updated, we could well do another release. But remember, nothing that comes from rpi-update is an 'official' release, those come from apt.

Of course, if we discover a real nasty just after updating apt, we would indeed release again.

Re: Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:26 pm
by gkreidl
Tikiatybme wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:06 pm
No, it’s new, why is proble a minor bug fix that someone REALLY smart discovered and resolved overnight, yep, burning the midnight oil!
How do you know? Pure Speculation?

Re: Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:27 pm
by gkreidl
jamesh wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:24 pm
gkreidl wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:59 pm
Yesterday I updated to kernel, firmware etc. version 1.20190925-2 (2019-10-10 13:55)
Today there is another one: 1.20190925+1-1 (2019-10-11 14:25)

Why? Is this some kind of emergency update? Or are these the same packages with just another naming scheme?
Was this with rpi-update? I wouldn't expect that on apt, but rpi-update always contains bleeding edge code, and its not on a regular update cycle it gets done when it need to be done. So if we find a nasty bug, just after its been updated, we could well do another release. But remember, nothing that comes from rpi-update is an 'official' release, those come from apt.

Of course, if we discover a real nasty just after updating apt, we would indeed release again.
No! Both versions are in the standard repository. I get them via apt or synaptic.

Re: Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:31 pm
by jamesh
gkreidl wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:27 pm
jamesh wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:24 pm
gkreidl wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:59 pm
Yesterday I updated to kernel, firmware etc. version 1.20190925-2 (2019-10-10 13:55)
Today there is another one: 1.20190925+1-1 (2019-10-11 14:25)

Why? Is this some kind of emergency update? Or are these the same packages with just another naming scheme?
Was this with rpi-update? I wouldn't expect that on apt, but rpi-update always contains bleeding edge code, and its not on a regular update cycle it gets done when it need to be done. So if we find a nasty bug, just after its been updated, we could well do another release. But remember, nothing that comes from rpi-update is an 'official' release, those come from apt.

Of course, if we discover a real nasty just after updating apt, we would indeed release again.
No! Both versions are in the standard repository. I get them via apt or synaptic.
OK, we probably found a nasty one then. Check out the linux repo, might be something in there to show what the problem was. Nothing to worry about. Just the usual bug finding and fixing.

Re: Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:27 am
by Gooseman

Re: Two new kernels, firmware etc. within two days?

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:36 am
by ShiftPlusOne
Yup, the link above is right.

When kernel8 was added, I moved the build over to aarch64, not realising that cross-compiling leaves native binaries that break out-of-tree module builds on the target.

I moved the build back over to raspbian and got rid of kernel8 headers. Everything else remains the same.