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Is the B+ too old for Raspian?

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:58 pm
by RoccoJones
I have a B+ and I installed whatever the Raspian was 2 years ago on it so I could use it as an NFS server. I haven't done an apt-get upgrade in a while, so I just did, then I got a bunch of seg faults. I tried fixing this and that, and in the end, I can't even ssh in because it just says "Connection to rpinfs closed." It looks like I'm just going to have to do a reinstall, but is there any point? Is the B+ just too old for this?

Re: Is the B+ too old for Raspian?

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:14 pm
by DougieLawson
Get a new SDCard, build Buster on it. Mount your old SDCard in a USB reader on the new system and lift the pieces you need.

Buster has been running on my 2014 B+ since the launch of the 4B.

Re: Is the B+ too old for Raspian?

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:16 pm
by RaTTuS
another buster vote for my original pi

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lsb_release -a ; cat /proc/cpuinfo
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Raspbian
Description:    Raspbian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Release:        10
Codename:       buster
processor       : 0
model name      : ARMv6-compatible processor rev 7 (v6l)
BogoMIPS        : 947.22
Features        : half thumb fastmult vfp edsp java tls
CPU implementer : 0x41
CPU architecture: 7
CPU variant     : 0x0
CPU part        : 0xb76
CPU revision    : 7

Hardware        : BCM2835
Revision        : 0002
Serial          : 00000000134e058d

Re: Is the B+ too old for Raspian?

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:30 pm
by RoccoJones
Why do I need another SD card? I don't think my old one's been overused (though it would explain a few things. How can I confirm?)

Re: Is the B+ too old for Raspian?

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:47 pm
by DirkS
RoccoJones wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:30 pm
Why do I need another SD card? I don't think my old one's been overused (though it would explain a few things. How can I confirm?)
Only to make it easier to save / retrieve stuff from your old install.
If nothing needs saving then you can just overwrite your old OS

Re: Is the B+ too old for Raspian?

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:00 pm
by DougieLawson
It means you can back out the change if it goes wrong or you forget something that's important.

Trashing a running system isn't a good idea.

Re: Is the B+ too old for Raspian?

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:50 pm
by RoccoJones
Ah, well that's what capturing the partitions is for. That doesn't account for the boot sector though, does it?
So, Buster it is. Is there any reason I shouldn't use Buster Lite? Like I said, it's main role is as an NFS server, but I can always install that after, can't I?

Re: Is the B+ too old for Raspian?

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:03 pm
by rpdom
RoccoJones wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:50 pm
Ah, well that's what capturing the partitions is for. That doesn't account for the boot sector though, does it?
Boot sector? There is no boot sector for the Pi. There is the MBR/partition table, the /boot partition and the / partition. That is it.

Even the MBR is unused apart from the partition information. No boot code in there at all.

Re: Is the B+ too old for Raspian?

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:11 pm
by RoccoJones
Oh that's just great! I tried burning a new image, but it keeps booting the old system! So I guess it is worn out. I ran badblokcs and got
Pass completed, 7707648 bad blocks found. (0/0/7707648 errors)
So what I'm trying to say is I guess I need a new SD card, but I'm not sure how to shop for one for a RPi. I've never had to buy one, because the ones I've bought came w/one.

Re: Is the B+ too old for Raspian?

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:48 pm
by Gavinmc42
SD card can be got from anywhere these days.
Supermarkets, office supplies, camera shops, ………...
I usually use 16GB Sandisk A1 or bigger, currently using 128GB on a Pi4

The A1 is the important bit, that means designed for lots of little read/writes.

If you only use it for a server, try PiCore and any old 256-512MB card :D
I find those in old phones/MP3 players, most are SLC, single layer cell flash, they last a bit longer.

Re: Is the B+ too old for Raspian?

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:14 am
by rpdom
RoccoJones wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:50 pm
So, Buster it is. Is there any reason I shouldn't use Buster Lite? Like I said, it's main role is as an NFS server, but I can always install that after, can't I?
Buster Lite is perfect for an NFS server. There's no reason an NFS server would need a desktop.

Re: Is the B+ too old for Raspian?

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:27 pm
by RoccoJones
Gavinmc42 wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:48 pm
SD card can be got from anywhere these days.
Supermarkets, office supplies, camera shops, ………...
I usually use 16GB Sandisk A1 or bigger, currently using 128GB on a Pi4

The A1 is the important bit, that means designed for lots of little read/writes.

If you only use it for a server, try PiCore and any old 256-512MB card :D
I find those in old phones/MP3 players, most are SLC, single layer cell flash, they last a bit longer.
Oh, maybe I should point out that the shared files won't be on the SD card. I have an external magnetic drive for that. In fact, considering that the SD card I have didn't last forever, I'm going to be trying to get all the rw parts of the file system on to the HDD.
Oh and my 4-year-old was delighted by your avi, btw :)

Re: Is the B+ too old for Raspian?

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:05 am
by Gavinmc42
Oh and my 4-year-old was delighted by your avi, btw :)
I keep the avatar to remind the kid that being called a "Pink Fuffy Unicorn" is NOT being bullied ;)
Talk about over reaction.