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Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:38 pm
by ralphrmartin
Trying further to fix the fbturbo missing problem:
Trying to install xserver-xorg-video-fbturbo fails as it says it has an unmet dependency of xorg-video-abi-23

I suppose I should mention my system has an official RPi touchscreen.

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:47 pm
by ShiftPlusOne
What's the output of 'apt policy'?

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:49 pm
by ralphrmartin
ShiftPlusOne wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:47 pm
What's the output of 'apt policy'?
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
release a=now
500 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian stretch/ui armhf Packages
release o=Raspberry Pi Foundation,a=stable,n=stretch,l=Raspberry Pi Foundation,c=ui,b=armhf
origin archive.raspberrypi.org
500 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian stretch/main armhf Packages
release o=Raspberry Pi Foundation,a=stable,n=stretch,l=Raspberry Pi Foundation,c=main,b=armhf
origin archive.raspberrypi.org
500 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster/rpi armhf Packages
release o=Raspbian,a=testing,n=buster,l=Raspbian,c=rpi,b=armhf
origin raspbian.raspberrypi.org
500 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster/non-free armhf Packages
release o=Raspbian,a=testing,n=buster,l=Raspbian,c=non-free,b=armhf
origin raspbian.raspberrypi.org
500 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster/contrib armhf Packages
release o=Raspbian,a=testing,n=buster,l=Raspbian,c=contrib,b=armhf
origin raspbian.raspberrypi.org
500 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster/main armhf Packages
release o=Raspbian,a=testing,n=buster,l=Raspbian,c=main,b=armhf
origin raspbian.raspberrypi.org
Pinned packages:

Not sure how those stretch entries are in there.
The only line in /etc/apt/sources.list is

deb http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian/ buster main contrib non-free rpi

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:53 pm
by bensimmo
spl23 wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:24 pm
bensimmo wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:02 pm
Pi3B+ (with SenseHAT attached).
BUG
WiFi connected and working.

When I click on the WiFi icon, it causes it to 'disassociate' and show the lines with red crosses. It actually does disassociate as the web page stop with an interruption.

It then re-establishes itself.

I don't think that should happen :-)
Repeatable and happens after boot up and an apt update.

Do another apt update - this should be fixed with the latest version of raspi-config.
I can't, 'nano' seems to be giving me a 'hash sum mismatch'

So I may not actually have updated before As just closed the window and rebooted.

Ok I've bypassed nano updating with --fix-missing
Nano is the only thing left now, but hash missmatches.

Yes, that fixed the WiFi icon :-)

(Still have the cma_alloc failed req-size 2025 pages, ret: -12 error though)

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:53 pm
by ShiftPlusOne
You missed sources.list.d/raspi.list

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:55 pm
by ralphrmartin
Ah, OK, found I had failed to edit
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/raspi.list
to also use buster

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:58 pm
by bensimmo
spl23 wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:32 pm
fruitoftheloom wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:26 pm
Installed Buster fresh this morning and several updates already:

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sudo apt update
sudo apt full-upgrade
Yes, we froze the image for release last week, but have continued to push patches and fixes to apt in the meantime. If you boot a fresh image, the first boot wizard should pull all the patches in for you.
It didn't for me as it just failed the update lots with errors for some reason and I couldn't properly read or copy and paste them.

BUT the welcome procedure seems to be all there since I last used it. :-)

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:00 pm
by inickt
I just downloaded and dd'd the lite image to two of my SD cards. I can mount the rootfs partition, but cannot mount the boot partition like normal to touch a ssh file so I can remotely configure my pi. Looks like the partition size is the new 256MB size and is fat32 as expected- anyone know what I can do to mount the boot partition and enable ssh without booting the pi and manually configuring it? :D On Fedora 30, checked my shasums, etc...

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mount: can't read superblock on /dev/mmcblk0p1.
Edit: I set my bs to 1M instead of 4M in my dd command and that seemed to fix things...

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:07 pm
by ralphrmartin
Thanks for the help. All working OK now I fixed the missed stretch->buster change, and reinstalled the fbturbo module.

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 BUG

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:39 pm
by PeterO
spl23 wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:23 pm
PeterO wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:27 pm
I can't add extra desktops because obconf segfaults :cry:
gdb says it is segfaulting in "preview_theme" so I guessit's pi specific theme stuff that's broken it . Didn't this happen before ?

PeterO
Sorry - yes, an updated package from stretch didn't make it to buster - should be fixed in apt within the next hour or so.
OK, still waiting ...
In the mean time, the desktop pager's "Desktop Pager Settings" menu doesn't seem to do anything either though I expect the two items are related ? (Does the menu start obconf ?)

PeterO

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:55 pm
by andrum99
oops duplicate post somehow

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:55 pm
by andrum99
Congrats on the new release! The upgraded graphics stack seems to be a bit snappier in my limited testing so far. One thing that is still missing though is something to control the screen saver. At the minimum there should be a tool to control how long it takes for the screen to go blank, and to disable this completely.

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 BUG

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:31 pm
by spl23
PeterO wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:39 pm
In the mean time, the desktop pager's "Desktop Pager Settings" menu doesn't seem to do anything either though I expect the two items are related ? (Does the menu start obconf ?)
We don't support multiple desktop switching (it was removed in wheezy) so the tools to support it are not guaranteed to work in our image; use them at your own risk and don't expect them to be supported.

But having just installed the plugin to try it, yes, that menu option does start obconf.

The new package doesn't seem to have updated on the servers yet - if you are in a hurry, just temporarily change /etc/apt/sources.list.d/raspi.list to access the stretch version of the repo and install it from there.

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:37 pm
by ralphrmartin
One quirk I noticed on upgrading - it left php7.0 there, as well as installing php7.3. I had to manually set up apache2 to use php7.3 instead of php7.0, then remove all of the php7.0 stuff.

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 BUG

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:51 pm
by PeterO
spl23 wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:31 pm
PeterO wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:39 pm
In the mean time, the desktop pager's "Desktop Pager Settings" menu doesn't seem to do anything either though I expect the two items are related ? (Does the menu start obconf ?)
We don't support multiple desktop switching (it was removed in wheezy) so the tools to support it are not guaranteed to work in our image; use them at your own risk and don't expect them to be supported.

I expect I said so at the time, but this is very short sighted ! And even more so now that the PI4 is capable of running more things at once and is being positioned as a PC replacement, then the lack of multiple desktops looks an even poorer decision.

But having just installed the plugin to try it, yes, that menu option does start obconf.

The new package doesn't seem to have updated on the servers yet - if you are in a hurry, just temporarily change /etc/apt/sources.list.d/raspi.list to access the stretch version of the repo and install it from there.
Just got a load of kernel updates but still no obconf. Tried changing that file but apt-get install claims "obconf is already the newest version (1:2.0.4+git20150213-2)."

PeterO

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 BUG

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:04 pm
by jamesh
PeterO wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:51 pm
spl23 wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:31 pm
PeterO wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:39 pm
In the mean time, the desktop pager's "Desktop Pager Settings" menu doesn't seem to do anything either though I expect the two items are related ? (Does the menu start obconf ?)
We don't support multiple desktop switching (it was removed in wheezy) so the tools to support it are not guaranteed to work in our image; use them at your own risk and don't expect them to be supported.

I expect I said so at the time, but this is very short sighted ! And even more so now that the PI4 is capable of running more things at once and is being positioned as a PC replacement, then the lack of multiple desktops looks an even poorer decision.

But having just installed the plugin to try it, yes, that menu option does start obconf.

The new package doesn't seem to have updated on the servers yet - if you are in a hurry, just temporarily change /etc/apt/sources.list.d/raspi.list to access the stretch version of the repo and install it from there.
Just got a load of kernel updates but still no obconf. Tried changing that file but apt-get install claims "obconf is already the newest version (1:2.0.4+git20150213-2)."

PeterO
TBH, you might be the only person I know who uses multiple desktops. I always find them very clunky.

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:14 pm
by loadbang
I found this which is useful: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade- ... -10-buster

Time for me to backup my Pi3 B+ that runs pihole and pivpn. See you on the other side. Hopefully my python 2.7 apps should be the only issue.

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 BUG

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:16 pm
by spl23
PeterO wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:51 pm
I expect I said so at the time, but this is very short sighted ! And even more so now that the PI4 is capable of running more things at once and is being positioned as a PC replacement, then the lack of multiple desktops looks an even poorer decision.
In your opinion; one with which, based on 25-odd years of user interface design experience, I happen to strongly disagree...

With Pi 4, if you want multiple desktops, you can do it the sensible way - by having multiple monitors.

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:18 pm
by spl23
loadbang wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:14 pm
I found this which is useful: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade- ... -10-buster

Time for me to backup my Pi3 B+ that runs pihole and pivpn. See you on the other side. Hopefully my python 2.7 apps should be the only issue.
There will be a set of instructions in the blog post tomorrow which have been tested on a Pi running Stretch which successfully transformed it into one running Buster - you might want to wait for those.

I should stress that this is not a supported upgrade path; our recommendation, as with all major version upgrades, is to start from a clean Buster image, and any upgrades you try are at your own risk!

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:19 pm
by tpyo kingg
bensimmo wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:01 am
So Buster has been released (with the Pi4)
it brings a few things with it,
https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
Nice. I've been looking forward to that. When will the Torrents be in place? I've added them to Transmission but get the error message "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker" for all three Buster torrents.

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:30 pm
by fruitoftheloom
tpyo kingg wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:19 pm
bensimmo wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:01 am
So Buster has been released (with the Pi4)
it brings a few things with it,
https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
Nice. I've been looking forward to that. When will the Torrents be in place? I've added them to Transmission but get the error message "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker" for all three Buster torrents.

I downloaded via Torrent this morning ;)

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:43 pm
by ShiftPlusOne
Ran out of time before getting to look into the torrent issues today. Will take a look tomorrow.

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:58 pm
by gordon77
jamesh wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:20 am
stumpagness wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:13 am
As someone who bought a Pi 3B+ yesterday, and brand new to the platform, is there a known reason why IDLE Python IDE was removed? I have begun learning to write Python in exactly this tool. Are there better options? I have had some console output issues with Geany thus far. Apologies for the noob questions.
Unfortunate timing. You might be able to get a swap depending on who you got it from.

As for the Python IDE, we recommend Thonny, which has been part funded by us and is in the menus. It's a lot better than Idle. Well, we think so!

I've tried Thonny with my python script of 5900, lines and still waiting for it to load,!! Can we have idle3 back?

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 BUG

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:11 pm
by PeterO
spl23 wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:16 pm
PeterO wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:51 pm
I expect I said so at the time, but this is very short sighted ! And even more so now that the PI4 is capable of running more things at once and is being positioned as a PC replacement, then the lack of multiple desktops looks an even poorer decision.
In your opinion; one with which, based on 25-odd years of user interface design experience, I happen to strongly disagree...

With Pi 4, if you want multiple desktops, you can do it the sensible way - by having multiple monitors.
Using multiple monitors is not the same thing as multiple desk tops, and if you think they are then I suggest you please try to find some people that use both and watch how they work.

PeterO

Re: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 BUG

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:25 pm
by PeterO
jamesh wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:04 pm
TBH, you might be the only person I know who uses multiple desktops. I always find them very clunky.
I'm amazed. I can't do without them. Here's my current desktop ... Three monitors and Four desktops.
desktop.png
3 Monitors 4 Desktops
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Not providing a useful feature simply because of some UI design dogma seems counter to the aims of the PI.

PeterO