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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:48 pm

Thank you for the tip :)

But I am still curious about what the update might contain, is there anywhere one can see a change log? :geek:

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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:05 pm

This isn't quite a bug... In order to fulfill being a desktop computer replacement, printing is required. I've been using HPLIP on my 3+ quite successfully to use our wireless HP printer, but the add/remove software HPLIP doesn't support Buster (Version 3.18.12). HPLIP has now released a version that does work with Buster (3.19.8) but it won't install manually on a model 4, failing in the make despite many attempts to work around the problem. Any idea when the updated version or HPLIP will be available via the add/remove software?

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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:29 pm

I second wpballa1's request. It's been frustrating trying to get HPLIP to install. I get an error message about Debian10.1 not being supported.
Did I mention that I love my Raspberry Pi(s) :D. Amazing power from a tiny device.

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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:49 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:22 pm

Code: Select all

sudo apt update
sudo apt full-upgrade
sudo reboot
full-upgrade? I've not seen this mentioned before. How is it different from dist-upgrade which I've always seen mentioned and have been using.

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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:51 pm

dist-upgrade and full-upgrade are synonymous.
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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:15 pm

wally333 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:49 pm
fruitoftheloom wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:22 pm

Code: Select all

sudo apt update
sudo apt full-upgrade
sudo reboot
full-upgrade? I've not seen this mentioned before. How is it different from dist-upgrade which I've always seen mentioned and have been using.

http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xen ... apt.8.html

https://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:33 am

Didn't realise that this had already been released three months ago! I remember when Jessie was brand new :D

Is there a 64-bit version for the Pi 4, especially since the Pi 4 4GB variant will likely run faster if it has a 64-bit OS to work with?
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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:06 am

ChasTech wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:33 am
Didn't realise that this had already been released three months ago! I remember when Jessie was brand new :D

Is there a 64-bit version for the Pi 4, especially since the Pi 4 4GB variant will likely run faster if it has a 64-bit OS to work with?
Its a common misunderstanding that a 64-biit version will runs significantly faster. This is not true, the speed difference is insignificant.

there are unofficial 64-bit releases you may try, but they are not as well supported as Raspbian.

As long as the RPF still sells hardware that only can run 32-bit its unlikely they will switch to 64-bit.

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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:45 pm

mahjongg wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:06 am
ChasTech wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:33 am
Didn't realise that this had already been released three months ago! I remember when Jessie was brand new :D

Is there a 64-bit version for the Pi 4, especially since the Pi 4 4GB variant will likely run faster if it has a 64-bit OS to work with?
Its a common misunderstanding that a 64-biit version will runs significantly faster. This is not true, the speed difference is insignificant.

there are unofficial 64-bit releases you may try, but they are not as well supported as Raspbian.

As long as the RPF still sells hardware that only can run 32-bit its unlikely they will switch to 64-bit.
Well to be fair Raspbian was only made because Debian armhf didn't support the original Pi's ARMv6 architecture but armel didn't utilise it to its maximum capability. Debian arm64, however, is compatible with the Pi 3 and 4's ARMv8 processors and with u-boot to emulate UEFI and GRUB2 as a EFI bootloader, not many changes should really be required to get Debian arm64 running on 64-bit Pi's, but all the packages are compatible with the Pi 3 and 4 provided it is running Debian, so 64-bit Raspbian would surely just be unnecessary because of Debian.
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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:17 pm

ChasTech wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:45 pm
Debian arm64, however, is compatible with the Pi 3 and 4's ARMv8 processors and with u-boot to emulate UEFI and GRUB2 as a EFI bootloader, not many changes should really be required to get Debian arm64 running on 64-bit Pi's, but all the packages are compatible with the Pi 3 and 4 provided it is running Debian, so 64-bit Raspbian would surely just be unnecessary because of Debian.
None of that fancy boot stuff should be required. The 64-bit kernel already works with the current bootloader.

The things that would need upgrading to 64-bit are all the Pi specific/modified packages that use things the standard Debian releases don't support yet.
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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:50 am

BogoMax wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:29 pm
I second wpballa1's request. It's been frustrating trying to get HPLIP to install. I get an error message about Debian10.1 not being supported.
Add another voice to the choir.. I've tried to manually install the latest HPLIP from sources but after a ton of succesfully compiled sources it complains about not finding some pre-built binaries to go with them. I'm guessing the problem is with the architecture.
Thanks to anyone looking into this or even only considering it.

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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:46 pm

maxmars wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:50 am
BogoMax wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:29 pm
I second wpballa1's request. It's been frustrating trying to get HPLIP to install. I get an error message about Debian10.1 not being supported.
Add another voice to the choir.. I've tried to manually install the latest HPLIP from sources but after a ton of succesfully compiled sources it complains about not finding some pre-built binaries to go with them. I'm guessing the problem is with the architecture.
Thanks to anyone looking into this or even only considering it.

First and foremost you should always try to install software from the Raspbian Buster repositories, and have responded to your other post:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view ... 6#p1578126
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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:43 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:46 pm
maxmars wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:50 am
BogoMax wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:29 pm
I second wpballa1's request. It's been frustrating trying to get HPLIP to install. I get an error message about Debian10.1 not being supported.
Add another voice to the choir.. I've tried to manually install the latest HPLIP from sources but after a ton of succesfully compiled sources it complains about not finding some pre-built binaries to go with them. I'm guessing the problem is with the architecture.
Thanks to anyone looking into this or even only considering it.

First and foremost you should always try to install software from the Raspbian Buster repositories, and have responded to your other post:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view ... 6#p1578126
I admit doing this because I have two RPI 4b boxes, one with Buster and another with Gentoo 64bit.
The compile-from-sources solution would let me kill two birds with a stone.
But I'm not greedy, having one box able to print is enough. I'll try the suggestion from the other thread asap.
Thanks again

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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:55 pm

maxmars wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:43 pm
fruitoftheloom wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:46 pm
maxmars wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:50 am


Add another voice to the choir.. I've tried to manually install the latest HPLIP from sources but after a ton of succesfully compiled sources it complains about not finding some pre-built binaries to go with them. I'm guessing the problem is with the architecture.
Thanks to anyone looking into this or even only considering it.

First and foremost you should always try to install software from the Raspbian Buster repositories, and have responded to your other post:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view ... 6#p1578126
I admit doing this because I have two RPI 4b boxes, one with Buster and another with Gentoo 64bit.
The compile-from-sources solution would let me kill two birds with a stone.
But I'm not greedy, having one box able to print is enough. I'll try the suggestion from the other thread asap.
Thanks again

This whole post is for Raspberry Buster a Debian based Operating System.


Nothing Gentoo related which is a completely differing Operating System:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=54
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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:56 pm

Could you kindly ask why the Raspbian (.zip) images are not widely distributed in different mirrors?

Everytime it downloads from:
https://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspb ... buster.zip

Only other place I found was a ftp.jaist.ac.jp server?

Are there any trademarks or other stuff involved?

Many thanks

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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:51 pm

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Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:56 pm
Could you kindly ask why the Raspbian (.zip) images are not widely distributed in different mirrors?

Everytime it downloads from:
https://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspb ... buster.zip

Only other place I found was a ftp.jaist.ac.jp server?

Are there any trademarks or other stuff involved?

Many thanks
They use the torrent for that purpose.

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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:53 am

Hi !
I'm trying to build raspbian , using a raspbian lite,
I can't succesfully clone it.

Please tel me I'm posting it in the wrong place, or if i miss some basics,
i'm a noob i coud have miss some step.

this is the git output:

git clone https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux --depth 1
Cloning into 'linux'...
remote: Enumerating objects: 66199, done.
remote: Counting objects: 100% (66199/66199), done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (61617/61617), done.
remote: Total 66199 (delta 5089), reused 17433 (delta 3657), pack-reused 0
Receiving objects: 100% (66199/66199), 177.85 MiB | 176.00 KiB/s, done.
error: inflate: data stream error (incorrect header check)
fatal: serious inflate inconsistency
fatal: index-pack failed

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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:24 pm

I have a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B with only FireFox ESR as extra package I believe, having removed Wolfram and Mathematica prior to upgrading from wheezy to jessie to stretch just last week.

Originally the DF command showed 6.2 GB available on my 8 GB SD card and it was using only 2.7 GB. After the upgrade to stretch and removal of the big useless packages, I ended up with an almost full SD Card (5.7 GB of 6.2 GB).

Would it be possible (both feasable and practical) to upgrade my Pi 2 model B to Buster? Now that I actually want to do something with it the card is almost full and has almost nothing extra. Input welcome.
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Re: STICKY: Raspbian 'Buster' 2019-06-20 / 07-10

Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:44 pm

A fresh install?
yes.
or get hold of another card, do a new fresh install on that and you can always go back to your old one if needed to get something.

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