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[Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:53 pm
by B.Goode
Release Notes

(from http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbi ... _notes.txt
2018-10-09:
* In startup wizard, assign keyboard to country as per Debian installer recommendations
* In startup wizard, add option to use US keyboard in preference to country-specific option
* In startup wizard, show IP address on first page
* In startup wizard, check for existing wifi network connection and show it if there is one
* In startup wizard, install language support packages for LibreOffice and other applications
* In startup wizard, improve operation with keyboard only and no mouse
* Password change in Raspberry Pi Configuration and startup wizard now works properly if passwords contain shell characters
* Battery indicator plugin modified to cope with Pi-top hardware monitor crashing
* Networking plugin hides wifi password characters by default
* In Scratch 2 GPIO plugin, set pin from dropdown list rather than free text
* In Scratch 2 SenseHAT plugin, swap x and y axis values for LED array
* Include latest Adobe Flash player (31.0.0.108)
* Include latest RealVNC Server (6.3.1)
* Include libav-tools
* Include ssh-import-id
* Removed Mathematica
* Merge in latest third-party code for Bluetooth ALSA interface
* Add ability to prevent software update changing configuration files, by creating ~/.config/.lock file
* Various other small bug fixes, tweaks and changes to text
* Make dhcpcd work with 3G devices
* Add hw acceleration to ffmpeg
* Improved WiFi-BT coexistence parameters
* Run fake-hwclock before systemd-fsck-root
* Raspberry Pi PoE HAT support
* Linux kernel 4.14.71
* Raspberry Pi firmware 5b49caa17e91d0e64024380119ad739bb201c674

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:15 pm
by fruitoftheloom
B.Goode wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:53 pm
Release Notes

(from http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbi ... _notes.txt
2018-10-09:
* In startup wizard, assign keyboard to country as per Debian installer recommendations
* In startup wizard, add option to use US keyboard in preference to country-specific option
* In startup wizard, show IP address on first page
* In startup wizard, check for existing wifi network connection and show it if there is one
* In startup wizard, install language support packages for LibreOffice and other applications
* In startup wizard, improve operation with keyboard only and no mouse
* Password change in Raspberry Pi Configuration and startup wizard now works properly if passwords contain shell characters
* Battery indicator plugin modified to cope with Pi-top hardware monitor crashing
* Networking plugin hides wifi password characters by default
* In Scratch 2 GPIO plugin, set pin from dropdown list rather than free text
* In Scratch 2 SenseHAT plugin, swap x and y axis values for LED array
* Include latest Adobe Flash player (31.0.0.108)
* Include latest RealVNC Server (6.3.1)
* Include libav-tools
* Include ssh-import-id
* Removed Mathematica
* Merge in latest third-party code for Bluetooth ALSA interface
* Add ability to prevent software update changing configuration files, by creating ~/.config/.lock file
* Various other small bug fixes, tweaks and changes to text
* Make dhcpcd work with 3G devices
* Add hw acceleration to ffmpeg
* Improved WiFi-BT coexistence parameters
* Run fake-hwclock before systemd-fsck-root
* Raspberry Pi PoE HAT support
* Linux kernel 4.14.71
* Raspberry Pi firmware 5b49caa17e91d0e64024380119ad739bb201c674

I must retreive my RPi and test this latest release on a new install !!

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view ... 8#p1376438

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:14 pm
by hippy
* Removed Mathematica
Does that mean Wolfram's gone ? :o

I remove it by default but having Wolfram/Mathematica had always seemed to be a big USP of the Pi to some.

It doesn't even seem installable as a package -

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[email protected]:~$ sudo apt-get install wolfram-engine
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package wolfram-engine  

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:25 pm
by Andyroo
hippy wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:14 pm
* Removed Mathematica
Does that mean Wolfram's gone ? :o

I remove it by default but having Wolfram/Mathematica had always seemed to be a big USP of the Pi to some.

It doesn't even seem installable as a package -

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[email protected]:~$ sudo apt-get install wolfram-engine
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package wolfram-engine  

There is a separate thread here https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view ... 4&t=224629 on this

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:27 am
by oguime
Is ffmpeg with hw acceleration installed on Stretch lite?

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:50 am
by HawaiianPi
Just gave Lite a try on my USB-SSD booted Pi3B and it's working as expected.

  • Downloaded via torrent
  • Imaged the drive with Etcher (2018-10-09-raspbian-stretch-lite.zip)
  • Added my wpa_supplicant.conf and an empty ssh.txt to the "boot" partition
  • Ejected it from my PC and reconnected it to the Pi
  • Powered up the little Pi, and away she went.

SSH in, change password and few configuration settings, reboot and I have console output in my other (serial) terminal. Now on to adding users and other boring stuff. No problems so far. WiFi connected right up with my old wpa_supplicant.conf. IP was already configured in my router, so no trouble connecting to the system via SSH. Everything seems right as rain in Raspberry land. :D

Am I allowed to say that (is rain actually right anywhere outside the UK)? ;)
I'm in the Pacific Northwest USA, so it should be okay. :lol:

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:40 am
by DougieLawson
HawaiianPi wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:50 am
Am I allowed to say that (is rain actually right anywhere outside the UK)? ;)
I'm in the Pacific Northwest USA, so it should be okay. :lol:
Our next door neighbours get more of it on their small green, very wet island. We're getting lots with Atlantic storm Callum blowing a hoolie and dumping a load of rain on both us and Ireland. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45838058

Weather is the thing us Brits talk about when there's nothing much else going on in the world. I like the suggestion from WL Phelps quoted here: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/right-as-rain

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:53 am
by ksharindam
oguime wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:27 am
Is ffmpeg with hw acceleration installed on Stretch lite?
ffmpeg is not installed by default in stretch lite. but if you install it using apt-get, you will get hw-accleration enabled ffmpeg.

BTW, hw-accleration support on ffmpeg was already added more than 8 months ago, not in this release.

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:57 am
by ShiftPlusOne
ksharindam wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:53 am
oguime wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:27 am
Is ffmpeg with hw acceleration installed on Stretch lite?
ffmpeg is not installed by default in stretch lite. but if you install it using apt-get, you will get hw-accleration enabled ffmpeg.

BTW, hw-accleration support on ffmpeg was already added more than 8 months ago, not in this release.
I was going through the list of changed packages between the last release image and this one and it looked like that patch wasn't in the previous image. Not 100% sure.

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:11 pm
by HawaiianPi
DougieLawson wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:40 am
Weather is the thing us Brits talk about when there's nothing much else going on in the world.
Here in Oregon we say there are only 2 seasons...


... rainy and construction.


A quick google search says we get much more rain here in Portland, Oregon than London in the UK (roughly double at 43 inches, or 1.09M). But we're only #10 on the top ten rainiest cities in the USA. #1 is Mobile, Alabama at 67 inches (1.7M), but they only average 59 rainy days a year, compared to our 154 days. It doesn't rain as hard here, but it rains a lot more often (over 40% of the time).

Feel any better about your weather over there, Dougie? :D

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:35 pm
by jamesh
HawaiianPi wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:11 pm
DougieLawson wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:40 am
Weather is the thing us Brits talk about when there's nothing much else going on in the world.
Here in Oregon we say there are only 2 seasons...


... rainy and construction.


A quick google search says we get much more rain here in Portland, Oregon than London in the UK (roughly double at 43 inches, or 1.09M). But we're only #10 on the top ten rainiest cities in the USA. #1 is Mobile, Alabama at 67 inches (1.7M), but they only average 59 rainy days a year, compared to our 154 days. It doesn't rain as hard here, but it rains a lot more often (over 40% of the time).

Feel any better about your weather over there, Dougie? :D
We'll have much better weather after Brexit. None of that dodgy European weather. At least, I think that was one of the things promised.

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:04 pm
by Burngate
It's not how much rain we get as when.

It's fine and sunny, so I wash the bedding. The wash cycle finishes, and the rain starts.

This morning my neighbour (in the other half of our semi) took his roof off. It promptly started to rain, with the wind blowing it straight into our loft.

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:27 pm
by ShiftPlusOne
Let's be honest. It should be "It's not about how much rain we get or when we get it, it's about how much we complain about it. And it it's sunny, we'll complain about that too."

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:31 am
by HawaiianPi
It's a shame that all we have to talk about in this thread about a new release of Raspbian is the weather.

Hopefully someone will find something horribly wrong with the new release soon and get this thread back on topic. ;)

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:26 am
by epoch1970
I'm interested in that.
Would a kind soul do my job and tell me where the improvement comes from: kernel/firmware, userland, both?
Thanks ;)

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:27 am
by B.Goode
HawaiianPi wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:31 am
It's a shame that all we have to talk about in this thread about a new release of Raspbian is the weather.

Hopefully someone will find something horribly wrong with the new release soon and get this thread back on topic. ;)

Well it's not something wrong with the new release per-se, but here's something I think is worth noting...


In a similar thread to this one an RPF engineer has said
Those [historic, archived, Raspbian OS] images will have Mathematica stripped out.
(https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view ... 0#p1376850)

I can see the legal impasse that the RPF have gotten themselves into. But I think it is a shame that resolving it means resorting to rewriting history to the extent that there will be no public archive of the actual released OS images from the past 6 years or so of the development of the RPi hardware and corresponding Raspbian OS.

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:30 am
by DougieLawson
epoch1970 wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:26 am
I'm interested in that.
Would a kind soul do my job and tell me where the improvement comes from: kernel/firmware, userland, both?
Thanks ;)
It's probably in the Broadcom firmware package.

Re: [Unofficial announcement] Raspbian - October 2018 version

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:40 am
by epoch1970
DougieLawson wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:30 am
It's probably in the Broadcom firmware package.
Thanks!
(I like blobs, finally)

EDIT: You got it exactly right I think. Thanks again.
https://github.com/RPi-Distro/firmware- ... 173402ae43