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Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:43 am
by GloomyGhost
Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs?
“Bochs is a highly portable open source IA-32 (x86) PC emulator written in C++, that runs on most popular platforms. It includes emulation of the Intel x86 CPU, common I/O devices, and a custom BIOS. Bochs can be compiled to emulate many different x86 CPUs, from early 386 to the most recent x86-64 Intel and AMD processors which may even not reached the market yet.
Bochs is capable of running most Operating Systems inside the emulation including Linux, DOS or Microsoft Windows. Bochs was originally written by Kevin Lawton and is currently maintained by this project.”
And I can run windows xp on my Android Phone(ARM)Image
Can I use the same thing in RaspberryPi 3?

Re: Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:13 am
by klricks
No
There is no mention of Raspberry Pi on the web site: http://bochs.sourceforge.net/
You would need to ask the maintainer or their user forum if any.

Re: Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:12 am
by Imperf3kt
Others have managed to emulate Windows XP on a Pi, but according to them, it was "agonisingly slow"
We're talking 5 minutes to boot slow.

In a world where I am used to my gadgets booting in ~3-8 seconds, I don't think I could have the patience to wait 5 minutes.
Then its slow while in use too.

Re: Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:58 am
by fruitoftheloom
GloomyGhost wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:43 am
Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs?
“Bochs is a highly portable open source IA-32 (x86) PC emulator written in C++, that runs on most popular platforms. It includes emulation of the Intel x86 CPU, common I/O devices, and a custom BIOS. Bochs can be compiled to emulate many different x86 CPUs, from early 386 to the most recent x86-64 Intel and AMD processors which may even not reached the market yet.
Bochs is capable of running most Operating Systems inside the emulation including Linux, DOS or Microsoft Windows. Bochs was originally written by Kevin Lawton and is currently maintained by this project.”
And I can run windows xp on my Android Phone(ARM)Image
Can I use the same thing in RaspberryPi 3?

The RPi has an ARM CPU and any VM will be painfully slow running any version of Windows past 95B..

...DosBox should be able to "run" Windows 3.11

If you want to run a limited selection of x86 software, see:

https://eltechs.com/product/exagear-des ... ely-offer/

Re: Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:43 am
by PiGraham
There are enough people claiming to have done it that it might be possible, but it looks slow.

This claims to be running on a Pi, but doesn't show anything that looks like Pi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Um4Vneberc

Video shows a boot in apparently real time that takes about 5 mins. Screen update of the mouse cursor looks jerky once booted.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bochs+raspberry

Re: Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:54 am
by Imperf3kt
PiGraham wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:43 am
There are enough people claiming to have done it that it might be possible, but it looks slow.

This claims to be running on a Pi, but doesn't show anything that looks like Pi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Um4Vneberc

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bochs+raspberry
Funny, the first thing I see is TinkerOS, which does not run on a Raspberry Pi

Re: Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:59 am
by ghans
Why don't you try it ?

Code: Select all

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install bochs
ghans

Re: Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:02 am
by PiGraham
?

First thing I see is an out of date ("doesn't work on Jessie", 2015) how to install Bochs on Raspberry Pi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPsBJjrW_a4

What has TinkerOS got to do with anything?

Re: Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:04 am
by Imperf3kt
PiGraham wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:02 am
?

First thing I see is an out of date ("doesn't work on Jessie", 2015) how to install Bochs on Raspberry Pi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPsBJjrW_a4

What has TinkerOS got to do with anything?
It means the video is a lie and the guy filming it was not using a Raspberry Pi.
Image
That, is a TinkerOS taskbar.
You can see it at the very start of the video, 10 seconds in.

Maybe you can use Windows 10 full instead

Re: Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:06 am
by ghans
That is what Raspbian with LXDE looked like ... Raspbian Wheezy from 2012, that is.

ghans

Re: Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:10 am
by Imperf3kt
Okay then, guess I was wrong?
I really should study Pi history a little more.

Re: Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:11 am
by PiGraham
Imperf3kt wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:04 am

It means the video is a lie and the guy filming it was not using a Raspberry Pi.
Image
That, is a TinkerOS taskbar.
You can see it at the very start of the video, 10 seconds in.
Ah, OK. No surprise that there are fake videos out there. I did note there was nothing in that video that looked like Pi but that doesn't tell us if it's all fake. It might be.

Re: Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:33 pm
by fruitoftheloom
GloomyGhost wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:43 am
Can Raspberry Pi3 install Windows XP With Bochs?

You really need a x86 SBC which can run Windows Desktop Editions, such as:

https://up-shop.org

https://shop.udoo.org/x86.html