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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:04 am

I have the same question - I was looking for Raspbian Stretch since I (naively) assumed that nftables will be included since it is included in Debian Stretch.

I searched around a lot but could not find anything on the topic, i.e. why nftables seems to be part of Debian Stretch but not Raspbian Stretch.

Anyone who knows more about this (why nftables was removed and if it will be included at some point)?

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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:14 am

Why do you think nftables isn't included in Raspbian Stretch?

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Package: nftables
Version: 0.7-1
Architecture: armhf
Maintainer: Arturo Borrero Gonzalez <arturo@debian.org>
Installed-Size: 407
Pre-Depends: dpkg (>= 1.15.7.2)
Depends: init-system-helpers (>= 1.18~), libc6 (>= 2.15), libgmp10, libmnl0 (>= 1.0.3-4~), libnftnl4 (>= 1.0.5+snapshot20160416), libreadline7 (>= 6.0), libxtables12
Homepage: http://www.netfilter.org/
Priority: extra
Section: net
Filename: pool/main/n/nftables/nftables_0.7-1_armhf.deb
Size: 132942
SHA256: 0028571f6bf28c4c21109a288b2d5753d58059d4a84c42d909262bd142c9f753
SHA1: ed21941b0beccfd7a81e24c598aa3e943a1d55b6
MD5sum: 5d80e4c13957f9f714a4c20f5424503e
Description: Program to control packet filtering rules by Netfilter project
 These are the user-space administration tools for the Linux
 kernel's netfilter and nftables. netfilter and nftables provide
 a framework for stateful and stateless packet filtering, network
 and port address translation, and other IP packet manipulation.
 The framework is the successor to iptables.
 .
 Netfilter and nftables are used in applications such as Internet
 connection sharing, firewalls, IP accounting, transparent proxying,
 advanced routing and traffic control.
 .
 A Linux kernel >= 3.13 is required. However, >= 4.10 is recommended.
Description-md5: 72e255fff23395a96c87983d45e02848
What does apt-cache policy nftables show for you?

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pi@raspi8:~ $ apt-cache policy nftables
nftables:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 0.7-1
  Version table:
     0.7-1 0
         10 http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ stretch/main armhf Packages
 

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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:36 am

It's not enabled in the kernel:

[code]
admin@raspberrypi:~ $ modinfo ip_tables
filename: /lib/modules/4.9.41-v7+/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko
description: IPv4 packet filter
author: Netfilter Core Team <coreteam@netfilter.org>
license: GPL
srcversion: 073F6A28550B59E4A9A7F74
depends: x_tables
intree: Y
vermagic: 4.9.41-v7+ SMP mod_unload modversions ARMv7 p2v8
admin@mistral:~ $ modinfo nf_tables
modinfo: ERROR: Module nf_tables not found.
admin@raspberrypi:~ $
[/code]

which means that it can't be used. Btw, I did manually install the nftables package from the repo, but obviously it can't work since the modules are not loaded (and are not loadable) into the raspbian standard kernel.

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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:10 am

Ok, it looks like you may need to build your own kernel if you need that specific functionality.

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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:14 am

Correct, but hoestly I'm not that eager to build my own kernel for raspbian. Since I read that nftables is part of Debian Stretch now (I couldn't double-check myself yet), my question was why it was removed from Raspbian and when it might be re-enabled. Does anyone know?

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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:04 am

raspi-user.france wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:14 am
Correct, but hoestly I'm not that eager to build my own kernel for raspbian. Since I read that nftables is part of Debian Stretch now (I couldn't double-check myself yet), my question was why it was removed from Raspbian and when it might be re-enabled. Does anyone know?
Since it's a kernel module it has not been removed. Kernel configuration is independent from the kernels that come with original Debian.
You can request to have it added by opening an issue at https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux

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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:54 pm

hello,
who should i ask to have an updated version of a package on raspbian repositories?
it's not a debian one, it's joan's pigpio.
On jessie it's stuck on v60, i checked stretch and it's still v60
since pigpio is now at v.64, i wonder who should update the available version..
i'd like to avoid intalling it manually :)
thanks

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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:11 pm

Should be updated next week. Any new features or important bug fixes?

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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:11 pm

Massi wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:54 pm
who should i ask to have an updated version of a package on raspbian repositories?
Raise an issue at https://github.com/RPi-Distro/repo/issues
That's set up for RPF repo questions / issues

Edit: just saw @Shift's post. I'll leave it here anyway for future reference.

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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:36 pm

ShiftPlusOne wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:11 pm
Should be updated next week. Any new features or important bug fixes?
(at least) a bugfix 3 months and a half old :)

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=66445&start=175#p1162081

thanks!

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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:58 pm

They could also update Chromium to stable revision (.113), instead of current .89 revision of V60
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chrom ... er&n=10000

Lot of fixes to regressions, because of those regressions actual stable was delayed for all platforms by many weeks, according to this pretty important fixes to browsing usage.
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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:53 pm

when fixed release will come?

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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:27 am

cjan wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:53 pm
when fixed release will come?
Which fixes?
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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:42 pm

jamesh wrote:
Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:27 am
cjan wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:53 pm
when fixed release will come?
Which fixes?
2017-09-07 img, thanks.

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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:53 pm

ShiftPlusOne wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:11 pm
Should be updated next week. Any new features or important bug fixes?
thanks, i can see the v64 on stretch
i intend this is not gonna be updated on jessie, am i right?

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Re: Raspbian::Stretch

Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:16 pm

Obviously by 'next week' I meant 'some time next month, if I don't forget'. Sorry about the delay.
Massi wrote: i intend this is not gonna be updated on jessie, am i right?
Correct, we tend to leave oldstable packages behind.

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