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new Raspbian version 2016-05-10

Fri May 13, 2016 2:41 pm

heya,
the new Raspbian version 2016-05-10
https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/anothe ... -raspbian/
is really amazing, especially the SD copy tool and some board or interface settings in the preferences, and more.

About the mouse settings there is IMO still 1 issue nevertheless:
Although I can adjust the mouse speed, to prevent from a bad lag time for my wireless mouse I still have to manually patch
/boot/cmdline.txt
by adding
usbhid.mousepoll=0
at the end.

That feature would be really appreciated also to have in the mouse settings menu additionally.

And finally 2 more wishs:

1st, as for Windows systems I would love to adjust the screen resolution settings also by a setting preferences menu,
either right-mouse-click on desktop, then context menu,
or menu-bar -> settings-> display -> resolution

2nd, in the interface settings, it would be great if one was not only able to enable/disable the Raspi cam but also to enable/disable i2c-0 besides i2c-1 and SPI and UART a.s.o., perhaps by radio buttons (featuring only exclusively i2c-0 enable if the Raspicam was disabled, or other way round).

That would be really amazing! 8-)
#define S sqrt(t+2*i*i)<2
#define F(a,b) for(a=0;a<b;++a)
float x,y,r,i,s,j,t,n;int main(){F(y,64){F(x,99){r=i=t=0;s=x/33-2;j=y/32-1;F(n,50&S){t=r*r-i*i;i=2*r*i+j;r=t+s;}if(S){PointOut(x,y);}}}for(;;);}

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Re: new Raspbian version 2016-05-10

Fri May 13, 2016 7:45 pm

Let's hope they haven't broken Bluetooth like they did with networking with all their customisations. Let's see if /etc/networking/interfaces works correctly in this update.

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Re: new Raspbian version 2016-05-10

Fri May 13, 2016 8:25 pm

I think CAN is broken. I now get a Cannot find device "can0".

Version 4.1 2016-03-18 works fine.

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Re: new Raspbian version 2016-05-10

Fri May 13, 2016 8:26 pm

About the mouse settings there is IMO still 1 issue nevertheless:
Although I can adjust the mouse speed, to prevent from a bad lag time for my wireless mouse I still have to manually patch
/boot/cmdline.txt
by adding
usbhid.mousepoll=0
at the end.

That feature would be really appreciated also to have in the mouse settings menu additionally.

That is not an issue...it means your mouse is bad/misbehaving. I had the same issue myself. You want to use a misbehaving mouse, then you add the linux cdmline default in yourself.

see: viewtopic.php?p=972125#p972125
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Re: new Raspbian version 2016-05-10

Fri May 13, 2016 8:28 pm

it's a LogiLink mouse/keyboard which is not so extremely bad quality.
But if you also had that experience, then it IS supposed to be a known issue, isn't it? ;)

and BTW,
on Windows it's not badly behaving, there it works like a charm ;)
Last edited by davenull on Fri May 13, 2016 8:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
#define S sqrt(t+2*i*i)<2
#define F(a,b) for(a=0;a<b;++a)
float x,y,r,i,s,j,t,n;int main(){F(y,64){F(x,99){r=i=t=0;s=x/33-2;j=y/32-1;F(n,50&S){t=r*r-i*i;i=2*r*i+j;r=t+s;}if(S){PointOut(x,y);}}}for(;;);}

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Re: new Raspbian version 2016-05-10

Fri May 13, 2016 8:30 pm

davenull wrote:it's a LogiLink mouse/keyboard which is not so extremely bad quality.
But if you also had that experience, then it IS supposed to be a known issue, isn't it? ;)
Doesn't matter. Mine is a $40 Microsoft 3500 series wireless. Misbehaving is misbehaving. Quality has nothing to do with it

See the link above.
Last edited by Rive on Fri May 13, 2016 8:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: new Raspbian version 2016-05-10

Fri May 13, 2016 8:31 pm

a, just overlapping posts...:

and BTW,
on Windows it's not badly behaving, there it works like a charm ;)

anyway, it should be possible to fix that by a GUI menu, too 8-)
#define S sqrt(t+2*i*i)<2
#define F(a,b) for(a=0;a<b;++a)
float x,y,r,i,s,j,t,n;int main(){F(y,64){F(x,99){r=i=t=0;s=x/33-2;j=y/32-1;F(n,50&S){t=r*r-i*i;i=2*r*i+j;r=t+s;}if(S){PointOut(x,y);}}}for(;;);}

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Re: new Raspbian version 2016-05-10

Fri May 13, 2016 8:32 pm

davenull wrote:a, just overlapping posts...:

and BTW,
on Windows it's not badly behaving, there it works like a charm ;)
Mine worked like a charm after I moved it to a front usb port. Like i said, if it misbehaves, it misbehaves, and if you have to set that in cmdline, then it is misbehaving.
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Re: new Raspbian version 2016-05-10

Fri May 13, 2016 8:34 pm

then it should be possible to fix that misbehaving or behaving by that GUI mouse properties setting menu, too :geek:
#define S sqrt(t+2*i*i)<2
#define F(a,b) for(a=0;a<b;++a)
float x,y,r,i,s,j,t,n;int main(){F(y,64){F(x,99){r=i=t=0;s=x/33-2;j=y/32-1;F(n,50&S){t=r*r-i*i;i=2*r*i+j;r=t+s;}if(S){PointOut(x,y);}}}for(;;);}

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Re: new Raspbian version 2016-05-10

Fri May 13, 2016 10:04 pm

loadbang wrote:Let's hope they haven't broken Bluetooth like they did with networking with all their customisations. Let's see if /etc/networking/interfaces works correctly in this update.
<sigh>

No, "they" (or to put it another way, me) haven't "broken" Bluetooth - I've given it a UI which is clean, elegant and works properly 99% of the time - unlike most of the other options out there for Linux.

And networking is not broken - like Bluetooth, it now "just works" for the vast majority of users, particularly when connecting to wi-fi networks. (Which it didn't using the old wpa_gui application.) dhcpcd is a perfectly valid way of managing Linux networking; it allows static IPs to be set (which is what you seem to be complaining about) - you just have to read the man page for dhcpcd.conf rather than the out-of-date guides telling you how to do it under the old system, which we got rid of over a year ago.

It's called progress - you know, making stuff better over time rather than just accepting the way it's always been?

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Re: new Raspbian version 2016-05-10

Fri May 13, 2016 11:55 pm

Rive wrote:That is not an issue...it means your mouse is bad/misbehaving.
It is a bit simplistic just to blame the mouse. "usbhid.mousepoll=0" means to poll the mouse at the rate the mouse recommends. Zero is supposed to be the default value for that parameter in Linux, so setting it explicitly should change nothing.

The Raspberry Pi kernel has been modified so that, by default, it polls no faster than 62.5Hz, even if the mouse suggests it. https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/co ... fb5b0b1140

There are significant performance benefits to avoiding excessive polling rates, and a well tested mouse probably should report correctly even if you poll it slower than it wants. But it is not surprising if some have not been tested in that condition.

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Re: new Raspbian version 2016-05-10

Sat May 14, 2016 8:08 am

jojopi,
thank you for your clarification!

But anyway, whatever the reason for the issue (or occurence or observation) might be:
AFAICS the behaviour (or misbehavior ro issue or missing or faulty setting) is a know issue (or obeservation or occurrence) ...

so my proposal was just to be able to fix or adjust the suitable setting in a GUI menu (perhaps beyond menu -> edit preferences -> mouse properties), without having to manually patch a system file (i.e., cmdline.txt).
#define S sqrt(t+2*i*i)<2
#define F(a,b) for(a=0;a<b;++a)
float x,y,r,i,s,j,t,n;int main(){F(y,64){F(x,99){r=i=t=0;s=x/33-2;j=y/32-1;F(n,50&S){t=r*r-i*i;i=2*r*i+j;r=t+s;}if(S){PointOut(x,y);}}}for(;;);}

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