The version on Win10 is the IoT version, which I haven't seen, but I believe is designed for small devices, not desktops, and hence has little or no graphical output.ArborealSeer wrote:Thank you James, I was going to post something similar myself at the foot of my post but refrained
I did notice you posted in the FAQ about the UI, or lack thereof but I understand if you don't/can't confirm/deny some of my conjecture.
At the very least my biggest hope is for the Universal Application Model support, with, Direct X. (and therefore ANGLE project).
Not entirely. However, you don't have to also invest a couple hundred on Apple hardware (like a Mac Mini) to build the app either!ptbw wrote:Are you sure about that cost of entry to the Windows App Hub?
Thanks Peter, tha's a great link and still leaves more things asking.PeterO wrote:Some useful info here : http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts ... to-expect/
I know of at least one person who read that the Pi will run Windows 10 and took that to mean running a traditional Windows OS with a desktop and point and click interface and threatening to take it to trading standards if it wasn't as advertised. I guess that's the first picture "Runs Windows 10" conjures up and why there was so much interest yesterday.ArborealSeer wrote:Windows 10 This is not the Windows 10 that runs on your PC
From a tech report I read, Windows 10 for IoT comes in three flavours [ and see Peter O's link earlier ] -jamesh wrote:The version on Win10 is the IoT version, which I haven't seen, but I believe is designed for small devices, not desktops, and hence has little or no graphical output.
Think about IBM. About a decade ago, the mainframe biz crashed and burned (as it turns out, only temporarily, but that's not particularly germane to this discussion). IBM stock lost 3/4 of its value. It was a real "buy" opportunity (one that I, alas, missed out on).It does tend to illustrate just how desperate Microsoft are getting in their struggle to remain relevant in age of the phone and tablet.
That's the most interesting source I have seen so far. Thank you.PeterO wrote:Some useful info here : http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts ... to-expect/
And from the slide on that page:One of my sources who knows quite a bit about Windows 10 says Athens is the more likely answer.
Built on ARM or x86
An optimised version of Windows for resource and cost constrained devices with the full power of modern application development to run Universal Apps
Universal AppsAccording to that job post for IoT China, which is part of the Beijing-based arm of Microsoft's Operating System Group, Microsoft was looking for an engineer "to help defining and delivering a set of cross platform technologies for migrating Windows Embedded Compact applications to run on Windows 10 based Athens platform." So it sounds as if Athens may be the intended successor to Windows Embedded Compact.
Windows Embedded Compact 7 is a componentised, real-time operating system designed for small-footprint devices at the edge of enterprise networks. With support for x86 and ARM architectures, Windows Embedded Compact 7 allows devices to leverage the latest innovations in hardware, and equips developers and device manufacturers with the tools they need to create nimble, enterprise-class intelligent system solutions, while reducing time to market.
Rich user interface
Includes XAML for Windows Embedded, a powerful technology which allows you to build interfaces that incorporate touch and gesture support.
Oh, we're not wondering. We're just greatly amused by it.jamesh wrote:For anyone wondering why their posts keep disappearing, can I suggest they read the third post in this thread.
I'm amused that people seem incapable of reading comprehension. I'm not amused that I keep having to moderate stuff that I really shouldn't have to - see previous sentence.Joe Schmoe wrote:Oh, we're not wondering. We're just greatly amused by it.jamesh wrote:For anyone wondering why their posts keep disappearing, can I suggest they read the third post in this thread.
Frankly, if these people were banned (no, not Joe), I wouldn't miss 'em. It's just wilful time wasting after the warning that was given - though to be fair, probably not the cause of yesterday's server meltdowns.jamesh wrote:I'm amused that people seem incapable of reading comprehension. I'm not amused that I keep having to moderate stuff that I really shouldn't have to - see previous sentence.
Brilliant. Post of The Year, 2015.ArborealSeer wrote:People who can't, rant?
Er why? You aren't forced with your arm held up your back to use any product created by Microsoft.pluggy wrote:Us old hands with 3000+ posts reserve the right to make scathing comments about a certain Redmond based company, and a certain charity founder "drinking the kool aid".
jamesh wrote:Just quick note to possible posters.
Any posts slagging off Windows or MS will be deleted as soon as they are seen. So don't bother.
pluggy wrote:I've nothing against Windows, cleaning malware from pensioners laptops and giving Windows IT support in a school pays the bills.
The Pi had too many operating systems last month, offering another one that is "windows" that isn't windows is doing nobody any favours.
It doesn't give the right to be correct, god knows I've made screw ups , but I think it excludes me from "People who can't"