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Newark/Farnell DOES NOT Discontinue Model B

Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:23 pm

What the heck? Why would they do this before even determining whether demand still exists? And why would the Foundation not know about it ahead of time?

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Re: Newark/Farnell DOES NOT Discontinue Model B

Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:30 pm

The licencees can be a law unto themselves, and don't necessarrily tell the Foundation anything (this may come back and haunt them). I've asked Eben when any new batches will be made.
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Re: Newark/Farnell DOES NOT Discontinue Model B

Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:23 pm

This is not good.
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Re: Newark/Farnell DOES NOT Discontinue Model B

Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:37 pm

iinnovations wrote:What the heck? Why would they do this before even determining whether demand still exists? And why would the Foundation not know about it ahead of time?

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Re: Newark/Farnell DOES NOT Discontinue Model B

Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:58 pm

I wonder how many outfits there are out there who have nailed their colours to the mast with the B ? The B+ is a far better machine, but if your kit was made to fit round a B and you have a couple of thousand in stock........
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Re: Newark/Farnell DOES NOT Discontinue Model B

Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:16 pm

mikronauts wrote:This is not good.
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Postby jamesh » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:13 am

From the mouth of the horse, Farnell are still manufacturing B's at Sony and will continue to do so while there is still demand
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Re: Newark/Farnell DOES NOT Discontinue Model B

Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:18 pm

Maybe the OP can tell us where he heard this from ?
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Re: Newark/Farnell DOES NOT Discontinue Model B

Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:30 pm

Prompted by this thread, I just checked the Farnell site and it says "no longer stocked" against the B.
That is probably the source of the OP's information.
Of course, it could well be a mistake by the people who administer the web site.

http://uk.farnell.com/raspberry-pi-accessories

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Re: Newark/Farnell Discontinues Model B

Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:38 pm

I think it started here: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewt ... 63&t=94138
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Re: Newark/Farnell Discontinues Model B

Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:01 pm

alexeames wrote:Prompted by this thread, I just checked the Farnell site and it says "no longer stocked" against the B.
That is probably the source of the OP's information.
Of course, it could well be a mistake by the people who administer the web site.

http://uk.farnell.com/raspberry-pi-accessories

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I beleive the website is incorrect. Wouldn't be the first time. Farnell are still manufacturing. In fact I was in the Sony factory a few weeks agao, and I seem to recall seeing a big pile of B's ready for shipping. My memory, like my opionions, may be incorrect.
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Re: Newark/Farnell Discontinues Model B

Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:23 pm

CPC's UK website is still showing the model B for sale, although it lists it as "awaiting delivery":

http://cpc.farnell.com/raspberry-pi/ras ... dp/SC12590

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Re: Newark/Farnell Discontinues Model B

Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:04 am

As I posted elsewhere, you cannot buy them. They are no longer stocked. I have been told by reps on chat (now twice) that they will no longer stock it, and to have people buy the B+.

If this is disinformation, they need to figure out who is the source and get the line straight. I assume they are doing this to, you know, make money, which is hard to do if your customers can't find your product.

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Re: Newark/Farnell Discontinues Model B

Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:25 am

iinnovations wrote:As I posted elsewhere, you cannot buy them. They are no longer stocked. I have been told by reps on chat (now twice) that they will no longer stock it, and to have people buy the B+.

If this is disinformation, they need to figure out who is the source and get the line straight. I assume they are doing this to, you know, make money, which is hard to do if your customers can't find your product.

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I'll talk to Eben - he said they are still being manufactured, so I believe Farnell have got their data wrong.
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Re: Newark/Farnell Discontinues Model B

Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:01 am

iinnovations wrote:As I posted elsewhere, you cannot buy them. They are no longer stocked. I have been told by reps on chat (now twice) that they will no longer stock it, and to have people buy the B+.

If this is disinformation, they need to figure out who is the source and get the line straight. I assume they are doing this to, you know, make money, which is hard to do if your customers can't find your product.

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It's likely that the online reps are just quoting what it says on the website.

Have you tried calling Farnell's sales department? If you hear it from a manager then raise the issue with the Foundation.
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Re: Newark/Farnell Discontinues Model B

Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:08 pm

They are NOT discontinued, and Farnell are still making them (RS are not, but Farnell have committed to make them for as long as there's demand). There were a few VERY large industrial orders for Model Bs over the last month or so which caught Farnell by surprise, and unfortunately all the line capacity is dedicated to B+ and A+ for the Christmas market for now, so they're out of stock - but Farnell are making more, and they'll be back soon.
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Re: Newark/Farnell DOES NOT Discontinue Model B

Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:05 pm

Update email from Claire:

"I'm on it, IT just told me it will be fixed by tomorrow."
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Re: Newark/Farnell Discontinues Model B

Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:18 pm

That is good news for all of us still needing B's due to connector/mounting hole positions :)
liz wrote:They are NOT discontinued, and Farnell are still making them (RS are not, but Farnell have committed to make them for as long as there's demand). There were a few VERY large industrial orders for Model Bs over the last month or so which caught Farnell by surprise, and unfortunately all the line capacity is dedicated to B+ and A+ for the Christmas market for now, so they're out of stock - but Farnell are making more, and they'll be back soon.
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Re: Newark/Farnell Discontinues Model B

Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:02 pm

mikronauts wrote:That is good news for all of us still needing B's due to connector/mounting hole positions :)
liz wrote:They are NOT discontinued, and Farnell are still making them (RS are not, but Farnell have committed to make them for as long as there's demand). There were a few VERY large industrial orders for Model Bs over the last month or so which caught Farnell by surprise, and unfortunately all the line capacity is dedicated to B+ and A+ for the Christmas market for now, so they're out of stock - but Farnell are making more, and they'll be back soon.
Just a quick question which I hope you don't mind me asking. Do you intend to move to the B+ form factor, or does the availability of the B mean there is no pressure to change, despite the improvements to the B+. And is there a reason you are not using the A+ or the CM?
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Re: Newark/Farnell Discontinues Model B

Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:37 pm

Hi James,

I don't mind the question at all.

I am working on moving to the B+ form factor, but the continued availability of B form factor is important to me until my stocks of B style products are exhausted. I will be starting to release '+' form factor products 2015Q1.

I love the improvements of the A+/B+ (as can probably be seen from my published reviews) but I am sure I am not the only add-on manufacturer who has existing stock of A/B format boards in inventory that will need to be sold.

Granted, all of my products work fine on A+/B+, but the board footprints don't match exactly due to the change in the relative position of the header, and the mounting holes do not match at all. Mind you, I far prefer the 40 pin header, and square mounting hole pattern :)

I am starting to use the A+, I think it is brilliant. At its price point, it is very suitable for embedded use. I just used one for a one-off EEPROM gang programmer!

I just wish there was a 512MB $25 variant.

I recently purchased a Compute Module development kit for evaluation, but at first blush, I am unlikely to embed the CM into products due to high cost, inconvenient connector (just try to find a vertical DIMM socket at a reasonable price). I may change my mind after I have a chance to thoroughly evaluate it.
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mikronauts wrote:That is good news for all of us still needing B's due to connector/mounting hole positions :)
Just a quick question which I hope you don't mind me asking. Do you intend to move to the B+ form factor, or does the availability of the B mean there is no pressure to change, despite the improvements to the B+. And is there a reason you are not using the A+ or the CM?
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Re: Newark/Farnell DOES NOT Discontinue Model B

Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:52 pm

Thanks!
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Re: Newark/Farnell DOES NOT Discontinue Model B

Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:40 pm

Thanks for the update.

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Re: Newark/Farnell DOES NOT Discontinue Model B

Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:54 pm

liz wrote:Update email from Claire:

"I'm on it, IT just told me it will be fixed by tomorrow."
Unfortunately it seems while farnell have fixed it newark haven't :(

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Re: Newark/Farnell DOES NOT Discontinue Model B

Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:40 am

No-one has ever accused the distributors of startling efficacy.
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