A post full of fail I'm afraid. And please keep your Barbados opinions to yourself before someone has a quiet word in the libel direction.dumbfounded wrote:The foundation chose to ally itself to RS and continues to do so by making it possible to order from RS despite them failing at every step. They're great guys though, and we should be feeling sorry for them because they're in barbados laughing their backsides off.
I'd cancel but according to RS it'll be here within the week.
Are you seriously telling us that the foundation didn't negotiate certain terms and conditions in those very same contracts in order to protect the image and reputation of the charity? My firm had a contract with IBM, IBM failed to live up to the agreed conditions of the contract, so we binned them.You know, those contracts that companies have that means people cannot just drop out of deals without cost implications?
I am not privy to the exact detail of the contract.numanoids wrote:Are you seriously telling us that the foundation didn't negotiate certain terms and conditions in those very same contracts in order to protect the image and reputation of the charity? My firm had a contract with IBM, IBM failed to live up to the agreed conditions of the contract, so we binned them.You know, those contracts that companies have that means people cannot just drop out of deals without cost implications?
Keep this up and it'll be pretty soon.dumbfounded wrote:what's the lead time on that?jamesh wrote: A post full of fail I'm afraid. And please keep your Barbados opinions to yourself before someone has a quiet word in the libel direction.
You mention the S word once more and I will be forced to ban you. Also, any implication of misappropriation of charity funds will also result in an instant ban (for your own benfit as well as the Foundation). Just for the record, there is nothing scam like or untoward going on. Farnell and RS were given the same information by the Foundation - how the distributors then used that information was up to them. They used it in different ways, Farnell well, RS not so well. How is that the responsibility of the Foundation? The blame for any RS failure lies entirely with RS for not taking on advice given by the Foundation, and the Foundation is in no position to force they multinational companies to do anything they don't want to do.TheToothbrushMan wrote:... and in the meantime we all get to watch the the Raspberry Pi folks jet around the world, telling everybody how great everything is and reading magazines publishing articles on the groovy things you can do with a Raspberry Pi.
It's starting to smell like a scam. I know that the Pi folks are a charity and are driven by good motives and all, but come on - blaming your suppliers is the bottom of the barrel. They are your customers as much as the Raspberry Pi folks are ours and if we are cancelling our orders then given the reputational damage to the Raspberry Pi organisation surely the Raspberry Pi folks should think about cancelling their account with RS?
Ok so perhaps there is no option to cancel the contract/agreement in place but if you look at the continued length of this thread and the sheer number of disgruntled RS customers, the very least the Foundation can do is A) put some pressure on RS to communicate more effectively with those of us who are still waiting for our deliveries, and B) if the RS response isn't good enough, make a public statement regarding RS inability to satisfy orders and suggest anyone looking for a unit to look at the myriad of alternative suppliers who have popped up.The blame for any RS failure lies entirely with RS for not taking on advice given by the Foundation, and the Foundation is in no position to force they multinational companies to do anything they don't want to do.
You haven't said where you ordered this from but I'm presuming its RS Components?thomaspriv wrote:Ok now I'm really suprised.
Ordered this morning at 10AM and this is the status now at 16:21
Order ID Date Status Tracking Number Grand Total Details
xxxx 2012-10-02 10:13:50 Order Shipped RJ683585560GB £61.15 click here
Almost time to play with my slice of pi xD
I'm a moderator on this site, and therefore represent the Foundation in that respect. I also work at Broadom with Eben, and am familiar with many of the behind the scenes issues.dumbfounded wrote:do you represent rs or the foundation? or are you a concerned citizen?
if rs did what they said they would do or even responded to enquiries we wouldn't all be moaning about it. so don't threaten people it does not reflect well on the foundation when you do that.
Ever notice that jamesh (and a few others) have their names appear in green? Ever pause to wonder what that meant? Yeah, he's a forum mod.TheToothbrushMan wrote:Jamesh. Who are you ? Are you a moderator ?
You've been suggesting that a major distributor of Raspberry Pis has been engaging in illegal practices in public. You don't need to worry about the Foundation taking action. You need to worry about the distributor taking action against you for defaming the company.In all the posts I am reading, I can see unhappy customers, and suggestions, and questions - but I can see no bad language, no swearing, no abuse. Anywhere.
Sheesh... The only prior checking is done on the first few posts to make sure they haven't attracted a spammer. Other than that, moderation is done after the fact.This is a moderated forum - all submissions are checked for abuse before posting. If my words are so objectionable, then why are they appearing online, having already been moderated? This simple fact makes your threats of libel moot.
It's NOT the Foundation you need to worry about. Besides...if someone took action against you over what you've said, I--for one--would cheer them on. Their reputation would be that of a company that stands up for itself and won't tolerate slurs that damage its reputation.If you do indeed represent the Foundation (and you are not answering this question as posed by others), and the Foundation does proceed with libel proceedings against me, then I feel obliged to point out that such proceedings would be i) futile, ii) costly and iii) reputationally catastrophic for the Foundation.
I call your refuteso I refute your suggestion it harms the foundation to be showing a supplier's inadequacies.
Again you presume to know who I've submitted to, perhaps you shouldn't jump to assumptions.simplesi wrote:I call your refuteso I refute your suggestion it harms the foundation to be showing a supplier's inadequacies.
You've read stories in the papers where you know the true facts? - Yes?
So what is going to happen if some "not worried about the true facts" big journalist start writing about this?
You think the headline is going to read "RS are a ......" - no - its will read "The RaspberryPi Foundation ......."
Then why aren't you contacting the supplier you ordered from? The orders don't flow through the Foundation.TheToothbrushMan wrote:The reputation of the Foundation is suffering fast through no fault of it's own. This is my concern.
Your beef is with the supplier. Whinging about it *here* isn't going to resolve your problem. You need to contact the supplier.And with such scandalous treatment of the customers and ever delayed shipping - it's only natural that folks are going to think something untoward is going on. Hence my comment.
Only if you keep bad mouthing the supplier *here*...where no one has the ability to do a thing to help you.And now I am being threatened with libel?
Tell that to the *supplier*. No one here and no one from the Foundation can process your order cancellation.Consider my order cancelled.
A waste of 17 weeks.