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Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:15 pm
by AndrewS
ShiftPlusOne wrote:That's due to older firmare which didn't support it yet. I would hope that the firmware in the repo is recent enough and you can fix it by running apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
Yep :)
The Raspbian image itself gets built from packages in the repository, so if standalone Raspbian works (it does - in fact all the http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ work on the B+ ), then the packages in the repository must be new enough, and so doing an apt-get upgrade on a Model B pi is guaranteed to get you an image which boots on a Model B+ Pi (after transferring it to a microSD card). 8-)

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:27 pm
by Hove
Mine arrived from Farnell today, and is up and running behind me chatting to Phoebe, my Raspberry Pi Quadcopter. Can't weight (sic) for the A+ to come out for her.

As a buy the buy (sic), anyone want some powered plugable USB 10 port hubs? The B+ has made mine redundant and tidied my desktop beautifully as a result!

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:40 pm
by Douglas6
Hove wrote:anyone want some powered plugable USB 10 port hubs? The B+ has made mine redundant
I suspect the powered hub manufacturers are going to miss the models A and B.

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:45 pm
by guzunty
AndrewS wrote:so doing an apt-get upgrade on a Model B pi is guaranteed to get you an image which boots on a Model B+ Pi (after transferring it to a microSD card). 8-)
It booted OK, it just didn't power up the USB ports. A clean Raspbian install works fine, and does enable the USB ports.

I will report back after trying the suggestions above on the old image.

For the record, the Guzunty programmable peripheral I curate works fine on the B+.

best,

Derek

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:48 pm
by Hove
Douglas6 wrote:
Hove wrote:anyone want some powered plugable USB 10 port hubs? The B+ has made mine redundant
I suspect the powered hub manufacturers are going to miss the models A and B.
But the 2A phone charger manufacturers are going to be delighted - you win some, you lose some!

BTW, I've seen mention of 'turning on' the higher power USB support, but not seen details. Anyone know what's necessary?

P.S. I transferred the model B SD card image to the B+ micro SD and it works fine

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:29 pm
by ActuallyRuben
Mine will arrive tomorrow. I actually wanted to buy a normal B on sunday, but for some reason waited till monday. When I saw the B+ announcement I didn't regret waiting.

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:41 pm
by AndrewS
Hove wrote:BTW, I've seen mention of 'turning on' the higher power USB support, but not seen details. Anyone know what's necessary?
https://projects.drogon.net/testing-set ... erry-pi-b/

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:46 pm
by Shoka
Waiting on mine, from RS. Ordered late last night, got the dispatch email this morning.

Got a 10 port USB hub of my own that's obsolete. Wonder how many more will retire shortly :)

Could not be better for me, bunch of Arduino Nano's hanging of a Pi, tidies it all up nicely. :) :)



Harry

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:50 pm
by AndrewS
Shoka wrote:Got a 10 port USB hub of my own that's obsolete. Wonder how many more will retire shortly :)
Intrigued to hear how you fit 10 USB devices into the 4 USB ports on the B+ ? ;)

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:59 pm
by Hove
AndrewS wrote:
Hove wrote:BTW, I've seen mention of 'turning on' the higher power USB support, but not seen details. Anyone know what's necessary?
https://projects.drogon.net/testing-set ... erry-pi-b/
Ta!

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:07 pm
by Gswg
Picked up two this morning from rs in Glasgow.

Ice cream - when does one indulge in such foodstuffs? Still not warm enough to call summer here!

Attempting to get i2s working - a breeze on the CM - a Royal PITA on B+

Gordon

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:27 pm
by AndrewS
Gswg wrote:Attempting to get i2s working - a breeze on the CM - a Royal PITA on B+
I'm sure it won't take too long for any software hiccups to be smoothed out :)

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:04 am
by guzunty
ShiftPlusOne wrote: That's due to older firmare which didn't support it yet. I would hope that the firmware in the repo is recent enough and you can fix it by running apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade, but if that's not the case, rpi-update or the nightly firmware packages should do the job.
dist-upgrade didn't help, just upgraded some WA packages.

rpi-update did the trick and without overwriting my fbtft modifications too :)

One more thing I noticed though...

sudo shutdown -hP doesn't work on the B+, or rather it does if HDMI is connected but not headless the way I use it (with ssh -X).

The symptoms are that it appears to reboot rather than shut down. I do not see the sequence of 10 Disk activity flashes I'm used to looking for on the other Pi models.

Anyone else seen that?

On the whole though, great upgrade. Kudos to the folks at RPi Towers. :)

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:37 am
by texy
guzunty wrote: rpi-update did the trick and without overwriting my fbtft modifications too :)
:)
Me too - my 'working' TFT SD card had kernel version from January this year, so neither the usb or the ethernet ports worked. I had to transfer the SD card back to one of my B's, rpi-update, then put it back into my B+ for it to work, which it did then perfectly ;)
Texy

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:43 am
by gordon77
Just arrived this morning. Swapped my microSD from my B (rev1 256MB) and powered up OK :D

Using latest Raspbian,

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:56 am
by tvjon
Just in case it's useful for anyone wondering if their choice of HD might work ok directly, I've tested these USB 3 2.5" HD's so far:

V63700H Toshiba

HX-M201TC Samsung

1D6APB-500 Seagate

All 2 TB & seem fine.

This is with:

max_usb_current=1

in /boot/config.txt

& yesterday's firmware update.

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:13 am
by alias_neo
Aha. So that's how we get the extra current.

I managed to get a freebie from Element 14 at Tower Bridge, took it straight home to see if I could ditch the spliced cable and powered hub I'm using for the B, but alas it would not run my 2.5" HDD.

I'll go straight home tonight and add the max_usb_current flag and see how it fares! Thanks tvjon.

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:30 am
by RaTTuS
mine turned up this morning and is working from from the noobs SD card supplied

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:58 am
by gordon@drogon.net
guzunty wrote: The symptoms are that it appears to reboot rather than shut down. I do not see the sequence of 10 Disk activity flashes I'm used to looking for on the other Pi models.
the 10 flashes do happen - just on the wrong LED. The "ACT" led changed GPIO pin number from the Bv2 to the CM test board and B+ Hopefully this will be fixed soon.

-Gordon

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:25 pm
by guzunty
Thanks for that info, Gordon.

I am most definitely seeing a reboot instead of a shutdown though.

Has anyone else running headless via ssh -X noticed that?

It definitely shuts down correctly when HDMI is connected which makes it a bit more difficult to troubleshoot, since I'd have to rig up another way to capture the console during shutdown.

Edit: What am I talking about? I'll have a root around in var/log and see if I can see anything interesting.

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:34 pm
by gordon@drogon.net
guzunty wrote:Thanks for that info, Gordon.

I am most definitely seeing a reboot instead of a shutdown though.

Has anyone else running headless via ssh -X noticed that?

It definitely shuts down correctly when HDMI is connected which makes it a bit more difficult to troubleshoot, since I'd have to rig up another way to capture the console during shutdown.

Edit: What am I talking about? I'll have a root around in var/log and see if I can see anything interesting.
Try simply

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 sudo halt
and forget all that shutdown -wibbly wobbly parameter stuff.

It works for me on every Pi I have.

-Gordon

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:37 pm
by guzunty
Nope, causes a reboot too.

Here is what is in syslog:

Jul 16 12:36:34 raspberrypi shutdown[2209]: shutting down for system halt
Jul 16 12:36:34 raspberrypi init: Switching to runlevel: 0
Jul 16 12:36:35 raspberrypi ifplugd(eth0)[1633]: Exiting.
Jul 16 12:36:35 raspberrypi ifplugd(wlan0)[1636]: Exiting.
Jul 16 12:36:36 raspberrypi ifplugd(lo)[1640]: Exiting.
Jul 16 12:36:36 raspberrypi ntpd[2107]: ntpd exiting on signal 15
Jul 16 12:37:31 raspberrypi kernel: imklog 5.8.11, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
Jul 16 12:37:31 raspberrypi rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="5.8.11" x-pid="1959" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] start
Jul 16 12:37:31 raspberrypi kernel: [ 0.000000] Booting Linux on physical CPU 0x0
Jul 16 12:37:31 raspberrypi kernel: [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
Jul 16 12:37:31 raspberrypi kernel: [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct
Jul 16 12:37:31 raspberrypi kernel: [ 0.000000] Linux version 3.12.21+ (pi@raspi2) (gcc version 4.7.1 20120402 (prerelease) (crosstool-NG 1.15.2) ) #1 PREEM
PT Sat Jun 14 12:01:42 CEST 2014

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:02 pm
by dom
gordon@drogon.net wrote: the 10 flashes do happen - just on the wrong LED. The "ACT" led changed GPIO pin number from the Bv2 to the CM test board and B+ Hopefully this will be fixed soon.
Do you have latest bootcode.bin? It should be useing the ACT led for the flashes.

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:05 pm
by guzunty
Mine is:

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-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   17824 Jul 16 06:41 bootcode.bin
(but I am seeing normal ACT behaviour except at shutdown)

Re: Who's got their hands on a B+ so far?

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:14 pm
by RaTTuS
my b+ halt's just fine