i think people shouldnt abbreviate to much, when RPI goes live properlly there'll be lots n lots of new people and things like "RTS" will leave them like "RT-WHAT?!" hehe
not to troll, just a thought
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Re: abbreviations
especially if 3-letter acronyms are still too short to search on
Re: abbreviations
I always enjoy it when acronyms (especially propriotary business ones) clash. Causes endless headaches in client/customer meetings!
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Re: abbreviations
R-Pi would be my preference. (doesn't seem to work in the search though)
Also see http://www.raspberrypi.org/for.....spberry-pi
Also see http://www.raspberrypi.org/for.....spberry-pi
Re: abbreviations
Though "Raspi" does work on the search...
Re: abbreviations
Note though the new trademark guidance and clarification of Rasberry Pi as an adjective not a noun. We aren't getting a "Raspberry Pi" but a "Rasberry Pi computer", and any abbreviation should perhaps reflect that.
I guess I'll have to stop using my favoured R-Pi ... RPiC ?
I guess I'll have to stop using my favoured R-Pi ... RPiC ?
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Re: abbreviations
Isn' 'RPic' a toilet cleanser?
I thought the emphasis was on THE Raspberry Pi
And Rapsberry Pi(e) is something eaten by humans - but both can be a source of great joy?....
(whoops getting too close to Counsellor Troy and her empathy ...
THE Raspberry Pi we'll be getting won't have any radiating emotions she could detect.
I thought the emphasis was on THE Raspberry Pi
And Rapsberry Pi(e) is something eaten by humans - but both can be a source of great joy?....
(whoops getting too close to Counsellor Troy and her empathy ...
THE Raspberry Pi we'll be getting won't have any radiating emotions she could detect.
Re: abbreviations
How about we just declare that RPi stands for Raspberry Pi installation? Get Liz to put it in the wiki so that it is official
Re: abbreviations
mole125 said:
How about we just declare that RPi stands for Raspberry Pi installation? Get Liz to put it in the wiki so that it is official
stop trying to defeat my attempts to get 'raspi' as the agreed abbreviation...
How about we just declare that RPi stands for Raspberry Pi installation? Get Liz to put it in the wiki so that it is official
stop trying to defeat my attempts to get 'raspi' as the agreed abbreviation...
Re: abbreviations
I like raspi
<homer>Mmmmm Raspi....</homer>
<homer>Mmmmm Raspi....</homer>
Re: abbreviations
If it helps any, you can do three character search string by either placing an * on the back of the search string (I.E. USB* or RPI* or CPU*) or you can use the custom google search that searches on the R-Pi site located at the top right hand corner of the home page.
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Re: abbreviations
piglet said:
I like raspi
<homer>Mmmmm Raspi....</homer>
Have you tried clicking the ? at the end of my signature.... :whistle:
I like raspi
<homer>Mmmmm Raspi....</homer>
Have you tried clicking the ? at the end of my signature.... :whistle:
Re: abbreviations
SN said:
piglet said:
I like raspi
<homer>Mmmmm Raspi....</homer>
Have you tried clicking the ? at the end of my signature.... :whistle:
They should update this to suit RPi too
piglet said:
I like raspi
<homer>Mmmmm Raspi....</homer>
Have you tried clicking the ? at the end of my signature.... :whistle:
They should update this to suit RPi too
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Re: abbreviations
Yeah, all those TLAs can get confusing (TLA is a long-standing military acronym for ... wait for it ... "Three Letter Acronym"! ).
The best things in life aren't things ... but, a Pi comes pretty darned close! 
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In theory, theory & practice are the same - in practice, they aren't!!!

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In theory, theory & practice are the same - in practice, they aren't!!!
Re: abbreviations
Abishur said:
If it helps any, you can do three character search string by either placing an * on the back of the search string (I.E. USB* or RPI* or CPU*) or you can use the custom google search that searches on the R-Pi site located at the top right hand corner of the home page.
Just a quick point…why on earth would you need to search for "raspberry pi / RPi" on the raspberry pi forum???
RPi has tended to be the shortening we"ve settled on in the wiki.
bob_binz your link is not suitable for a kid friendly forum. (until the last 2 sec, it was good)
If it helps any, you can do three character search string by either placing an * on the back of the search string (I.E. USB* or RPI* or CPU*) or you can use the custom google search that searches on the R-Pi site located at the top right hand corner of the home page.
Just a quick point…why on earth would you need to search for "raspberry pi / RPi" on the raspberry pi forum???
RPi has tended to be the shortening we"ve settled on in the wiki.
bob_binz your link is not suitable for a kid friendly forum. (until the last 2 sec, it was good)
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Re: abbreviations
Jim Manley said:
Yeah, all those TLAs can get confusing (TLA is a long-standing military acronym for ... wait for it ... "Three Letter Acronym"! ).
An acronym has to be a pronouncable word. So TLA isn't a TLA
Yeah, all those TLAs can get confusing (TLA is a long-standing military acronym for ... wait for it ... "Three Letter Acronym"! ).
An acronym has to be a pronouncable word. So TLA isn't a TLA
Re: abbreviations
Respectfully, the last post is rubbish. A TLA does not need to be a pronounce word because the A stands for Abbreviation
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Re: abbreviations
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An acronym has to be a pronounceable word. So TLA isn't a TLA.
According to definition (3) at Wiktionary, an acronym doesn't have to be pronounceable, though this is subject to dispute. Besides, English only has a casual relationship between spelling and pronunciation -- e.g., "Keswick", "Cholmondeley", "Beetham", and "Raymond Luxury Yacht" -- so it's always possible to assign a pronunciation. My favorite is "bippi-doo" for BPDU.
An acronym has to be a pronounceable word. So TLA isn't a TLA.
According to definition (3) at Wiktionary, an acronym doesn't have to be pronounceable, though this is subject to dispute. Besides, English only has a casual relationship between spelling and pronunciation -- e.g., "Keswick", "Cholmondeley", "Beetham", and "Raymond Luxury Yacht" -- so it's always possible to assign a pronunciation. My favorite is "bippi-doo" for BPDU.
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Re: abbreviations
Keep in mind that dictionaries are "descriptive", not "proscriptive". That is, as some of those with an obscure academic bent often say "They are not normative". Or, in the language of the C standards documents, they "codify existing practice".
I.e., even though the "word" "ain't" is in most dictionaries, I think we can all agree that it ain't (sic) a word.
So, to get this back on-topic, just because you can quote a dictionary that says that non-pronouceables can still be called acronyms, doesn't convince those of us, like me, who don't agree.
I.e., even though the "word" "ain't" is in most dictionaries, I think we can all agree that it ain't (sic) a word.
So, to get this back on-topic, just because you can quote a dictionary that says that non-pronouceables can still be called acronyms, doesn't convince those of us, like me, who don't agree.
And some folks need to stop being fanboys and see the forest behind the trees.
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Re: abbreviations
The "acronyms have to be pronounceable" tribelet is in a tiny misinformed minority, since the following 1,216 TLAs are in use, some since before any of us were born, and many are completely unpronounceable. How do _you_ pronounce "RPMs"?, BTW, or, for that matter, "BTW"? It may predate you, but, before WWW (gee, how does that one sound?) forums, us geezers and codgers communicated vis BBSes. I"ve been to the DMZ between north and South Korea (they never capitalize "north" in the South as it"s considered a temporarily renegade province of Korea). I don"t know how it sounds in 7.1, but, DVD is an unpronounceable TLA in any number of channels. An accepted mathematical principle is that only one counterexample needs to be found in order to disprove a theorem, and there are hundreds of counterexamples below.
http://dictionary.reference.co.....rowse/TLAs
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SKU, SMB, SMG, SMI, SML, SMM, SMP, SMS, SMT, SNA, SNI, SNR, SOH, SOJ, SOL, SOM, SOS, SPC, SPD, SPE, SPG, SPI, SPL, SPM, SPS, SPX, SQE, SQL, SQR, SRI, SRL, SRP, SSA, SSE, SSI, SSL, SSR, STB, STD, STP, STX, SUB, SVC, SVG, SVS, SYN, TAA, TAB, TAC
http://dictionary.reference.co.....rowse/TLAs
AAC, AAL, AAP, ABC, ABI, ABM, ABP, ABR, ACA, ACE, ACF, ACK, ACL, ACM, ACP, ACT, ADC, ADL, ADM, ADO, ADR, ADS, ADT, AED, AEP, AES, AFJ, AFK, AFP, AFS, AGL, AGP, AIA, AID, AIR, AIT, AIX, AKC, AKL, ALC, ALF, ALM, ALP, ALU, AMD, AMI, AML, AMO, AMP, AMS, AND, ANI, ANL, ANR, ANS, ANU, AOL, AOP, AOS, APA, APC, APE, API, APL, APM, APT, AQL, ARC, ARL, ARM, ARP, ARQ, ART, ASA, ASE, ASF, ASK, ASL, ASM, ASN, ASP, ASR, AST, ATA, ATK, ATM, ATS, ATX, AUI, AUP, AVI, AVS, AWE, AWG, AWT, AYT, BAD, BAL, BAP, BBC, BBL, BBS, BCC, BCD, BCL, BCS, BDC, BDL, BEA, BEG, BEL, BER, BFI, BGA, BGP, BIP, BLT, BMF, BMP, BNC, BNF, BOF, BOS, BPI, BPR, BPS, BQS, BRB, BRH, BRI, BRS, BSA, BSD, BSI, BSL, BSS, BST, BTB, BTS, BTW, BWQ, CAD, CAE, CAF, CAI, CAL, CAM, CAN, CAP, CAS, CAT, CAV, CBD, CBN, CBR, CBT, CBV, CCD, CCL, CCP, CCR, CCS, CDA, CDC, CDE, CDF, CDL, CDM, CDS, CEN, CER, CFD, CFP, CGA, CGI, CGM, CHI, CID, CIF, CIL, CIM, CIR, CIS, CIX, CJK, CLI, CLM, CLP, CLR, CLU, CLV, CLX, CMA, CMC, CML, CMM, CMP, CMS, CMU, CMZ, CNC, CNI, CNN, COM, COS, CPE, CPI, CPL, CPM, CPS, CPU, CRC, CRL, CRM, CRT, CSG, CSL, CSM, CSO, CSP, CSR, CSS, CSU, CSV, CTC, CTI, CTL, CTS, CTY, CUA, CUL, CUT, CVS, CWI, DAA, DAC, DAG, DAS, DAT, DAU, DBA, DBC, DBH, DCA, DCC, DCE, DCG, DCI, DCL, DCP, DCS, DCT, DDB, DDE, DDL, DDM, DDN, DDO, DDP, DDS, DDT, DEA, DEC, DED, DEK, DER, DES, DEX, DFA, DFC, DFD, DFS, DFT, DGL, DIB, DID, DIL, DIM, DIN, DIP, DLC, DLE, DLG, DLL, DLM, DLP, DLT, DMA, DME, DMI, DML, DMM, DMZ, DNF, DNS, DOA, DOE, DOF, DOL, DOM, DOS, DPB, DPL, DPN, DPP, DPS, DRM, DSA, DSE, DSI, DSL, DSM, DSN, DSP, DSR, DSS, DST, DSU, DSW, DTD, DTE, DTP, DTR, DTS, DUA, DVD, DVI, DXF, EAF, EAG, EAI, ECC, ECL, ECM, ECP, EDA, EDF, EDI, EDL, EDM, EDP, EDS, EER, EFF, EFL, EFT, EGA, EGP, EIA, EJB, ELF, ELI, ELP, EMA, EMC, EML, EMM, EMS, EMX, ENQ, ENS, EOF, EOL, EOT, EOU, EPL, EPP, EPS, ERA, ERC, ERD, ERP, ESA, ESC, ESD, ESF, ESI, ESL, ESP, ESR, ETB, ETC, ETM, ETX, EVE, EXE, FAC, FAD, FAP, FAQ, FAT, FCB, FCP, FCS, FDC, FDT, FEA, FEC, FEL, FFP, 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Re: abbreviations
But these are simply examples of Three-Letter-Abbreviations or 3-lnitial-Letter Sets and doesn't make them Acronyms
To be an Acronym they must form a 'WORD' - which others have interpreted as needing to be pronouncable - but that might be affected by dialect, or Atlantic Divide etc.
A word formed from the initial letters of a name, such as WAC
Acronyms doe not have to be resticted to 3 letters, of course
To be an Acronym they must form a 'WORD' - which others have interpreted as needing to be pronouncable - but that might be affected by dialect, or Atlantic Divide etc.
A word formed from the initial letters of a name, such as WAC
Acronyms doe not have to be resticted to 3 letters, of course
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Re: abbreviations
Those are abbreviations, not acronyms.
As Mark Twain tells the story:
Q: If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?
A: Four. Calling a tail a leg does not make it a leg.
As Mark Twain tells the story:
Q: If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?
A: Four. Calling a tail a leg does not make it a leg.
And some folks need to stop being fanboys and see the forest behind the trees.
(One of the best lines I've seen on this board lately)
(One of the best lines I've seen on this board lately)
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Re: abbreviations
Speaking of an alphabet soup of acronyms and other jargon, given the educational terms the UK folks here bandy about as if they were part of the global lexicon, I still can"t figure out if my U.S. accredited MS in computer science qualifies me to have passed the GCSE, much less the A Level ... ah, yes, two peoples separated by a common language
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Re: abbreviations
Joe Schmoe said:
Those are abbreviations, not acronyms.
Incorrect, Joe. Acronyms, by both definition and use, are formed from the first letters from each word an acronym represents (often clarified as not necessarily being pronounceable words by being capitalized). An abbreviation is simply _any_ shortening of a word (there are no one-letter acronyms that I can think of) or phrase, and there is no single rule for doing so, although dropping some number of trailing letters or syllables is most common. If you say someone is from Western Mass, any New Englander will instantly know that you are abbreviating Massachusetts (the reason for the abbreviation being obvious, especially for those bad at pronunciation, much less spelling ). If I ask for some pud in London, I hope to get some tasty dessert (although I may wind up with a most distasteful, unsavory, and unpleasnt surprise in the U.S.).
It should now be obvious that acronyms are a form of abbreviation, and therefore form a subset, not a separate set, from abbreviations. Acronyms have existed for far longer than any of us has been alive, and a recent belief that they have to be pronounceable doesn"t change the fact that they do not, as evidenced by acronyms such as RPM (revolutions per minute existed long before the Red Hat Package Manager ) which has been in use for nearly two centuries. Such a lack of linguistic precision explains a lot about why software often contains so many semantic, as well as syntactic, bugs.
Those are abbreviations, not acronyms.
Incorrect, Joe. Acronyms, by both definition and use, are formed from the first letters from each word an acronym represents (often clarified as not necessarily being pronounceable words by being capitalized). An abbreviation is simply _any_ shortening of a word (there are no one-letter acronyms that I can think of) or phrase, and there is no single rule for doing so, although dropping some number of trailing letters or syllables is most common. If you say someone is from Western Mass, any New Englander will instantly know that you are abbreviating Massachusetts (the reason for the abbreviation being obvious, especially for those bad at pronunciation, much less spelling ). If I ask for some pud in London, I hope to get some tasty dessert (although I may wind up with a most distasteful, unsavory, and unpleasnt surprise in the U.S.).
It should now be obvious that acronyms are a form of abbreviation, and therefore form a subset, not a separate set, from abbreviations. Acronyms have existed for far longer than any of us has been alive, and a recent belief that they have to be pronounceable doesn"t change the fact that they do not, as evidenced by acronyms such as RPM (revolutions per minute existed long before the Red Hat Package Manager ) which has been in use for nearly two centuries. Such a lack of linguistic precision explains a lot about why software often contains so many semantic, as well as syntactic, bugs.
The best things in life aren't things ... but, a Pi comes pretty darned close! 
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In theory, theory & practice are the same - in practice, they aren't!!!

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Re: abbreviations
'Simples' - [As simple as Cricket] but that reference to a popular series of Advert on Telly / 'the Box' useing Merecats with Russian names will be lost on you (try searching on merecat.com)....
Once upon a time, after simple School Certifcates and the like , we had O (ordinary) Levels and A advanced levels taken at about 16 and 18 respectively in Grammar Schools.
(Typically taking 8 O levels and then 2-4 A levels before xx% going to University)
CSE Certificate of Secondary Education was a separate lower qualification taken mainly at Secondary Modern Schools which were the destinations of those who 'failed' the '11+' exam at the end of Primary School. Some may feel this continued to maintain the class distinctions of British or English Society (differing exams applied in Scotland)....
Passing or especially Failing exams was considered not politically correct - along with sports where some might win or lose .... thus 11+ was replaced in most areas [but not Kent or Enfield or..public schools - which are, of course, private schools] by simply going to large comprehensive schools and bussing pupils (or now parents drving them to and fro - too afraid to let them walk).
Comprehensive Schools then streamed people within the school. The bottom disruptive pupils were not allowed to be left behind and have special classes. A revised exam system changed from O levels with grades ACE as pass, to GCSE and no fails (to misquote a Mastermind Quiz programme). NVQs ( a three letter abbreviation - see other thread ) were a more recent alternative 'non academic subject' work orientated qualification ['Caring for horses' being quoted recently by Politicians changing the system yet again].
From A levels you could go on to University for a Degree - or Hons Degree BA/Bsc (/Hons) , or perhaps to a Polytechnic - which offered External-degrees (monitored by a University) or City&Guilds or other, Vocational qualifications - many on day-release or as part of apprenticeships. But this meant only a minority (who got grants as well) went to Uni ... so Labour renamed Polytechnics as Universities (politicians like redefining language - the latest being marriage)... and then everyone could go to 'University'.. but, strangely enough, more money was needed for grants, so these have become loans to be paid back if you stay in the UK and manage to earn money... thus creating more state-debtors to add to mortgages and credit card debtors..
thus showing that New Labour was really no different to former Education Secretary 'The Milk Snatcher': Thatcher: who thought/thinks that money is the means to all ends, and that what was owned by the people, for the people, should be sold to the people (or better still: overseas companies) so that not all the people got profit from the rest of the people who could no longer afford to use the national services of water, electricity, gas, rail and roads... so that IF the fuel tanker drivers did go on strike, it would make no difference.
Now we have unemployment and imported goods form China - but should we look to the efficiency of the universal shipping container -as the main reason for this... it is now cheaper to ship around the world than across the UK! This has gone OTT OT
Time to occupy time constructively with programming The Raspberry Pi Computer Then the Hi-tech industries which survive in the UK can earn some export money.... to
pay for the Chinese imports

Once upon a time, after simple School Certifcates and the like , we had O (ordinary) Levels and A advanced levels taken at about 16 and 18 respectively in Grammar Schools.
(Typically taking 8 O levels and then 2-4 A levels before xx% going to University)
CSE Certificate of Secondary Education was a separate lower qualification taken mainly at Secondary Modern Schools which were the destinations of those who 'failed' the '11+' exam at the end of Primary School. Some may feel this continued to maintain the class distinctions of British or English Society (differing exams applied in Scotland)....
Passing or especially Failing exams was considered not politically correct - along with sports where some might win or lose .... thus 11+ was replaced in most areas [but not Kent or Enfield or..public schools - which are, of course, private schools] by simply going to large comprehensive schools and bussing pupils (or now parents drving them to and fro - too afraid to let them walk).
Comprehensive Schools then streamed people within the school. The bottom disruptive pupils were not allowed to be left behind and have special classes. A revised exam system changed from O levels with grades ACE as pass, to GCSE and no fails (to misquote a Mastermind Quiz programme). NVQs ( a three letter abbreviation - see other thread ) were a more recent alternative 'non academic subject' work orientated qualification ['Caring for horses' being quoted recently by Politicians changing the system yet again].
From A levels you could go on to University for a Degree - or Hons Degree BA/Bsc (/Hons) , or perhaps to a Polytechnic - which offered External-degrees (monitored by a University) or City&Guilds or other, Vocational qualifications - many on day-release or as part of apprenticeships. But this meant only a minority (who got grants as well) went to Uni ... so Labour renamed Polytechnics as Universities (politicians like redefining language - the latest being marriage)... and then everyone could go to 'University'.. but, strangely enough, more money was needed for grants, so these have become loans to be paid back if you stay in the UK and manage to earn money... thus creating more state-debtors to add to mortgages and credit card debtors..
thus showing that New Labour was really no different to former Education Secretary 'The Milk Snatcher': Thatcher: who thought/thinks that money is the means to all ends, and that what was owned by the people, for the people, should be sold to the people (or better still: overseas companies) so that not all the people got profit from the rest of the people who could no longer afford to use the national services of water, electricity, gas, rail and roads... so that IF the fuel tanker drivers did go on strike, it would make no difference.
Now we have unemployment and imported goods form China - but should we look to the efficiency of the universal shipping container -as the main reason for this... it is now cheaper to ship around the world than across the UK! This has gone OTT OT
Time to occupy time constructively with programming The Raspberry Pi Computer Then the Hi-tech industries which survive in the UK can earn some export money.... to
pay for the Chinese imports